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Disconnecting Car Battery for MIG Welding: Is It Necessary?

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  • #31 1515090
    azibik
    Level 32  
    to hutsul
    because you are standing on the ground, if you levitate you will not
    kicks
    if you're so good, draw the current flow
    while welding and back it up with some theory
    and don't rely on grandma
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  • #32 1515168
    Paweł_swobodny
    Level 20  
    What about theories! Theories were written by others and we should follow them. If you don't believe that welding can kill electronics, you probably won't believe that a bra can kill a woman either... and I've heard of at least two such cases where the current induced in the wires used to stiffen the bra (about 10 cm) during a lightning strike He took two souls from this world. But I will still refer to those stiff hinges in the door - let's say that the mass is fastened somewhere to the engine and we weld sheets. Imagine that there is a weak connection between the engine and the body, the mass is rusty and there will be a spark somewhere .... after all, in order for a spark to occur, you probably need a potential difference, and you can't deny that it is dangerous...
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  • #33 1515445
    avatar
    Level 36  
    azibik wrote:
    to hutsul
    because you are standing on the ground, if you levitate you will not
    kicks
    if you're so good, draw the current flow
    while welding and back it up with some theory
    and don't rely on grandma

    culture!

    When welding elements in the car, there is a large current flow through the car body ... as everyone knows, the current flow causes a field and can form a potential in other parts / elements, besides, the arc during welding radiates EM waves quite well, such a delicate comparator or some mosfet can be damaged. and such elements can be stuffed in the car
    btw there is a 15V drop across the arc flowing through air*

    ;] I say that he can kick this man and his > Z
  • #34 1515630
    dragon400
    Level 14  
    disconnecting the battery doesn't help, there are many electronic cases, it's worth a few pennies on Allegro anyway. The overvoltage protection device, as they say, helps to spend PLN 60 and not to pack hundreds of zlotys later. and as welders say, apply the mass as close as possible to the weld, it will reduce the possibility of overvoltage
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  • #35 1515786
    gumiś_rzesz
    Level 25  
    Hello
    I can see that the topic is developing and reading all the posts I am more and more afraid of these cars in the hall and maybe someone has a diagram of such a device that would protect the electronics or some ways to protect the electronics from damage.
    GREETINGS
  • #36 1515904
    avatar
    Level 36  
    gumiś_rzesz wrote:
    Hello
    I can see that the topic is developing and reading all the posts I am more and more afraid of these cars in the hall and maybe someone has a diagram of such a device that would protect the electronics or some ways to protect the electronics from damage.
    GREETINGS

    There are no such !!! the only certain protection is to remove the key elements, e.g. a computer, but the newer the cars, the more boxes that can break down, there is no good advice for this .. usually when the battery is disconnected, everything is ok ... and sometimes something hits; it's such a lottery :O
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  • #37 1517281
    Zuchan
    Level 16  
    The case of disconnecting the battery is very similar to welding pipes in the vertical block. There are cases that after such welding, the SAT tuner, radio equipment, and sometimes the electronics of the refrigerator stopped working after such welding. And probably someone will say, after all, the pipes are grounded, so what can happen to the user's installation? And yet it is happening! There are plenty of theories on this subject - the conclusion is one: do not philosophize what, how, why - just disconnect the battery from the installation and calm down, other damage that may occur during welding cannot be avoided in 100%. Damage to the battery can be avoided and it is worth disconnecting it.
  • #38 10704485
    gumisj-no
    Level 10  
    Hello, I am refreshing the topic because when I welded wheel arches in my Opelek, the battery was disconnected and, unfortunately, the result was damage to the diodes on the alternator. my cousin who weld in the Opel workshop also had the same thing.

Topic summary

The discussion centers on whether it is necessary to disconnect a car battery during MIG welding. Opinions vary, with many participants advocating for disconnection to prevent potential damage to electronic components and systems, particularly in vehicles equipped with airbags and sensitive electronics. Some users share personal experiences of damage caused by stray currents during welding, while others suggest using protective devices like high-power diodes or grounding techniques to mitigate risks without disconnecting the battery. The consensus leans towards disconnecting the battery as a precautionary measure, despite the inconvenience it may cause, especially regarding coded radios and immobilizers.
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