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Where do programs like "Our New Home" have money for such repairs?

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  • #1 14840860
    alikatek
    Level 29  
    Hello.
    I will probably stick a stick in an anthill with this subject.
    There are more and more programs such as "Our New Home" on TV
    In them, the rapid renovations of damaged homes of needy families are presented. I've watched it a lot and I am puzzled by a few things:
    :arrow: Is it possible to perform a major renovation in 5 days?
    :arrow: Where is the money for such ventures from?
    :arrow: Are houses given to families for free?
    :arrow: What happens to the things that were in this house before the renovation?
    :arrow: How are families selected to participate in the program?


    My "guessing"
    :arrow: Not. The paints have to dry for a long time, nothing can be done on freshly laid tiles, the stench from renovation lasts a long time, materials are ordered long before renovation, etc. Whoever was at the construction site knows.
    :arrow: That's what I don't know. I suspect it's from ads hidden in the program. In one episode, I counted a total of 20 surreptitious ads. As far as I know, you can get from 1 to 10gr per display of an advertisement and these programs are watched by thousands of viewers and are preceded by advertisements. But in practice it is not so colorful anymore.
    :arrow: In my opinion, NO, if the cash register is not correct, the household must probably take out a loan.
    :arrow: They are probably sold to get additional money for renovation.
    :arrow: I do not know.



    I am asking colleagues for answers to the above questions. I must admit that the topic interested me a bit.
    I encourage you to actively participate in the discussion.
    Greetings.
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  • #2 14841058
    Oprysk Stonki
    Level 29  
    But you have dilemmas, quantum physics is a piece of cake. And tell me, where did Geslerka get a coat for the renovation of a collapsing pub that she was supposed to put on her feet; Is it possible that they renovated there at a time when they allegedly bought carrots from a peasant and how did she choose the object of her media interest?
  • #3 14841079
    alikatek
    Level 29  
    Oprysk Stonki wrote:
    But you have dilemmas, quantum physics is a piece of cake.

    Already in one post I wrote what I think about your "nuisance". I am peaceful and I want to reconcile with you.
    Oprysk Stonki wrote:
    And tell me, where did Geslerka get a coat for the renovation of a collapsing pub that she was supposed to put on her feet; Is it possible that they renovated there at a time when they allegedly bought carrots from a peasant and how did she choose the object of her media interest?

    I have a slightly different opinion of Mrs. Gesler. It's all about the viewers' approach to the show. In her program, at the beginning, you go around the restaurant as much as possible (I will not quote), which attracts people. We Poles (not all of them) have such a thing that we like to watch someone mix up with mud, we are "jara" and there is viewership for that.
    Programs where someone gives someone for free make us jealous.

    But we have already moved away from the thread and an unnecessary offtop is being created.
  • #4 14841085
    karolark
    Level 42  
    alikatek wrote:
    I will probably stick a stick in an anthill with this subject.
    There are more and more programs such as "Our New Home" on TV
    Immediate renovations of damaged homes of needy families are presented in the mouth. I've watched it a lot and I am puzzled by a few things:


    How above do you have no other problems?
    For just watching it should be college (cool thing from real socialism)
    Besides, the television will accept everything as well as the written word, and the delighted crowd watches / reads with mouths open :-)

    Added after 52 [seconds]:

    alikatek wrote:
    But we have already moved away from the thread and an unnecessary offtop is being created.


    The subject is unnecessary.
  • #5 14841103
    alikatek
    Level 29  
    karolark wrote:
    How above do you have no other problems?

    HydePark is to be discussed loosely. These are not problems, but human curiosity. Since the forum is bad, I will ask elsewhere.
    karolark wrote:
    For just watching it should be college (cool thing from real socialism)

    Please explain.
    karolark wrote:
    Besides, the television will accept everything as well as the written word, and the delighted crowd watches / reads with mouths open

    What you see on TV is usually truncated, important facts are cut out.

    karolark wrote:
    The subject is unnecessary.

    And the topic about the bankruptcy of Greece is also not needed? How is he even better than mine? Also not in accordance with the purpose of the forum, even breaking the rules (we do not write about politics on the electrode). Somehow, no one got stuck. The topic was closed because offtop appeared.
  • #6 14841165
    karolark
    Level 42  
    alikatek wrote:
    karolark wrote:
    How above do you have no other problems?

    HydePark is to be discussed loosely. These are not problems, but human curiosity. Since the forum is bad, I will ask elsewhere.
    karolark wrote:
    For just watching it should be college (cool thing from real socialism)

    Please explain.
    karolark wrote:
    Besides, the television will accept everything as well as the written word, and the delighted crowd watches / reads with mouths open

    What you see on TV is usually truncated, important facts are cut out.

    karolark wrote:
    The subject is unnecessary.

    And the topic about the bankruptcy of Greece is also not needed? How is he even better than mine? Also not in accordance with the purpose of the forum, even breaking the rules (we do not write about politics on the electrode). Somehow, no one got stuck. The topic was closed because offtop appeared.


    1 Loose discussion ok but what for? What do you expect from mush on TV?
    2 There should be a punishment for watching - anyway, it increases the stupidity of viewers - chaff of substitute topics of mediocre quality.
    3 You have answered yourself
    4 How can a state go bankrupt - stupidity - the theft of power chosen by a mush-fed society, etc.
  • #7 14841190
    alikatek
    Level 29  
    1. For the exchange of views between users. For the same, a topic about Greece was created.
    2. Well, actually right.
    3rd consent
    4. They have not auctioned off any country for its debts.
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  • #8 14841195
    strucel
    Level 35  
    And what is this thorough renovation? You can buy quick adhesives for the tiles and in these few programs, as I have seen even in the case of a fungus on the walls, they did not change the plaster, but put gipskarton - such renovation is a quick step, the matter of good organization of employees so that they do not interfere with each other and the right amount of them As for other matters, see the American prototype of this program in which they start with demolishing an old house with an excavator :)
  • #9 14841202
    alikatek
    Level 29  
    strucel wrote:
    in these few programs, what I saw even in the case of a fungus on the walls, they did not change the plaster, they only put gipskarton

    It's not called renovation but "sweeping the problems under the rug." Besides, they treat these mushrooms with some kind of chemicals.
    strucel wrote:
    As for other matters, see the American prototype of this program in which they start with demolishing an old house with an excavator

    I have already watched. I'm impressed, but the original is probably more crafted.
    strucel wrote:
    the matter of good organization of employees so that they do not interfere with each other and

    Difficult logistical task.
    strucel wrote:
    the right amount of them

    You have to pay them. They probably don't work for free (supposition)
  • #10 14841942
    Maciej1387
    Level 15  
    Buddy, alikatek, you do not realize how much advertising can cost ...
    Even if you only charge 5 groszy for viewing 1 advertisement, multiplied by the statistical viewership of this program provided by polsat, i.e. over 2 million, it gives:
    0.05 * 2,000,000 = PLN 100,000 per advertiser.
    As you can see from one advertiser, you can do such a renovation and in the episode there are several of them, so the money is definitely correct and there is a lot of money left. If the producer was less greedy, he could do instead of such "chuck heads .." as they do in the original.

    Besides, I have the same opinion as Col. Charles:
    Quote:
    And besides, the television will accept everything as well as the written word, and the delighted crowd watches / reads with mouths open ...
    ... increases the stupidity of viewers - chaff of substitute topics of mediocre quality
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  • #11 14842260
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    @alikatek

    It depends on what conditions.
    But it works like this: you need a program to be watched by the viewer.
    It can be whatever Bear Grils, a documentary, home renovation, gold digging, car repair or Warsaw Shore,
    each program targets a niche.

    Producing each program involves some costs, as it attracts the right number of people in front of the TV sets, it will earn for itself. The point is to earn more than you think. But it is also on a broader level because not every program has to pay off. Such Top Gear probably earns money for several other programs.
    There is nothing to prevent the cost of the program from investing in someone else's apartment or car instead of, for example, a ticket for Bear Grils to the end of the world.

    Is it possible in 5 days
    - yes, but see below

    Where is the money for such ventures from?
    - look up.

    Are houses given to families for free?
    - yes, although they probably have to sign this and that, some confidentiality, consent to participate in the program and so on.

    What happens to the things that were in this house before the renovation?
    - it's probably a matter of findings. Rather, they will not sell an old sofa, and if someone else's family heirlooms or a collection of bayonets will be blown away, it will also be sad.

    How are families selected to participate in the program?
    - probably so that it could be finished in 5 days ;) .
  • #12 14842725
    jasiek1122
    Level 21  
    I do not know if such a renovation can be called a general renovation?
    Once I watched one of the episodes, and I wanted to laugh and cry at the same time. :D Such a renovation takes two or three winters, and then the same mushroom will come out on top, they put a lot of emphasis on being cheap. I remember they put a new roof there because the old one was leaking (the roofing felt on it was probably), they only put the sheet on the roofing sheet and it's ready. Well that's cool, and what about rotten patches, rafters, such a renovation is a response ... and that's it.
    Sure, it takes 5 days to get involved with such a renovation, but can it be called a renovation?
    And as for the things from the old house, they probably allow you to take what is valuable, needed by the family, and the rest goes to the container. :D
    I don't disapprove of such behavior, it's good that they help such families. :spoko:
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  • #13 14842754
    Oprysk Stonki
    Level 29  
    And have you watched a similar American program where families build a house in 5 days, including pouring the bench? Though okay, the concrete under the shoals will freeze in the daytime, plus the tubiform skeleton and wool in the middle.
    The spring breeze will come and it will blow away.
  • #14 14842822
    alikatek
    Level 29  
    Maciej1387 wrote:
    0.05 * 2,000,000 = PLN 100,000 per advertiser.

    An impressive amount. This is enough for a sensible renovation to be carried out.
    Tommy82 wrote:
    Nothing prevents you from investing money in someone else's apartment at the expense of the program

    And I stopped believing in people a long time ago. According to the saying. I doubt that the family whose house is being renovated will not pay anything or be involved in any official matters (general term)
    "You can get it in the mouth for free, and you have to know what for"
    Tommy82 wrote:
    they probably have to sign this and that

    And somehow they are probably tied to the renovation sponsors.
    Tommy82 wrote:
    How are families selected to participate in the program?
    - probably so that it could be finished in 5 days.

    Rightly.
    jasiek1122 wrote:
    Such a renovation takes two or three winters, and then the same mushroom will come out on top, they put a lot of emphasis on being cheap.

    They don't have an unlimited wallet. They have to save on something. I see that they treat this mushroom with chemistry, but chemistry will not take care of everything. Sometimes you have to hack off a piece of the wall to get rid of this stuff.
    jasiek1122 wrote:
    they just put the tray on the tar paper and it's ready. Well that's cool, and what about rotten patches, rafters, such a renovation is a response ... and that's it.

    They actually made a piss as long as they agreed and it looked nice.
    jasiek1122 wrote:
    Sure, it takes 5 days to get involved with such a renovation, but can it be called a renovation?

    I don't know if even 20 people arranged so as not to disturb each other would be able to do a complete demolition at home in 5 days, clean up the demolition effects, make construction plans, follow the construction plans and clean up after themselves.
    Since they are doing to piss off (the aforementioned), it is not a renovation, but wrapping their heads in a piece of candy wrapper and giving it to the child.
    jasiek1122 wrote:
    I don't disapprove of such behavior, it's good that they help such families.

    I am glad that there are still people who want to help, but I have lost my faith in people a long time ago. I've been through too many disappointments.
    Oprysk Stonki wrote:
    And have you watched a similar American program where families build a house in 5 days, including pouring the bench? Though okay, the concrete under the shoals will freeze in the daytime, plus the tubiform skeleton and wool in the middle.

    But in this case, it is necessary to demolish, clean and create a construction plan - the house is probably created from a ready plan, from semi-finished products that consist of a puzzle.
  • #15 14843012
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    Oprysk Stonki wrote:
    And have you watched a similar American program where families build a house in 5 days, including pouring the bench? Though okay, the concrete under the shoals will freeze in the daytime, plus the tubiform skeleton and wool in the middle.
    The spring breeze will come and it will blow away.


    A house is built with them for several years. Then demolish and build the next one.
    This way the houses are cheaper and the builders have work to do. And when the house is still in Kansas, where a tornado hits every other day in the season, it is better for a head of plywood to fall on the head than concrete blocks. ;)
  • #16 14843150
    chrust58
    Level 18  
    Or moving houses, I think the move costs more than building a new one. The foundation is new anyway.
  • #17 14844497
    alikatek
    Level 29  
    chrust58 wrote:
    Or house removals

    When whole houses are moved, they are moving rather priceless monuments that do not match the surroundings or are in danger.
    chrust58 wrote:
    I think this move costs more than building a new one.

    If they are transporting a 200-year-old relic, it pays off. They save history from destruction.
    chrust58 wrote:
    The foundation is new anyway.

    You can't see the foundation.
  • #18 14844642
    chrust58
    Level 18  
    Rather expensive sentiment, because they are the owners of these buildings, not the state, and the risk during transport that it will not arrive in full, and such cases have already happened.
  • #19 14845037
    alikatek
    Level 29  
    chrust58 wrote:
    because they are the owners of these buildings

    How do you know? Do you have proof of that? Maybe the state pays extra?
    chrust58 wrote:
    that it will not fully reach it, and such cases have already been

    Then it damages millions of dollars and the shipping company collapses its operations.
  • #20 14846161
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    And where does the money for top gear come from?
  • #21 14846879
    Artur k.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    House removals are not unusual. Such things were done in Poland before the war, although in a completely different way than in the USA today.
    My great-grandmother and great-grandfather bought a used house. Someone built a new one, and they bought and moved the old one. It was done quite simply - the houses were wooden, such a house was dismantled for the first time, loaded onto a cart, transported and put together elsewhere. Only the foundation was new because it cannot be transferred. My great-grandparents moved to this house in 1930, unfortunately, for obvious reasons, I will not know how long it took to move the house, and today no one does such things anymore, because a brick house reigns, and a brick house cannot be moved.

    Regarding TV programs - I think that the renovation is free for the participants under certain conditions. Probably at the cost of participation in the program, they become a live advertisement.

    Have you ever seen a restaurant after the revolution by Magda Gessler? There are several of them in Warsaw (although one has recently gone bankrupt). Each one has a large sign with the inscription Magda Gessler - this is probably one of the conditions, I have never been inside, so I do not know, but there is probably also a smuggled advertisement for the Prymat company that sponsors this program.

    I suppose that such a home renovation or a kitchen revolution is not a bigger expense for the sponsor than if he ordered the normal broadcast of the advertisement in the evening airtime, when the viewership is highest. The benefits are greater because everyone has had enough of advertising as such, and the TV program, if it is cleverly made, will have an audience.
  • #22 14847241
    dedito
    Level 39  
    Artur k. wrote:
    Everyone has had enough of advertisements as such, and the TV program, if it is cleverly made, will have an audience.
    Product placement is so popular recently (see different series).
  • #23 14847507
    alikatek
    Level 29  
    Tommy82 wrote:
    Where's the money for top gear?

    I don't watch Top Gear, but the source is probably the same.
    Artur k. wrote:
    my great-grandmother and great-grandfather bought a used house. Someone built a new one, and they bought and moved the old one. It was done quite simply - the houses were wooden, such a house was dismantled for the first time, loaded onto a cart, transported and put together elsewhere. Only the foundation was new because it cannot be transferred.

    Today, brick houses, there are companies that move it, but the costs are probably greater than the destruction of the old and building a new one.
    Artur k. wrote:
    Have you ever seen a restaurant after the revolution by Magda Gessler? There are several of them in Warsaw (although one has recently gone bankrupt)

    Before Mrs. Gesler, restaurant owners declare bankruptcy out of fear. :P
    Artur k. wrote:
    . The benefits are greater because everyone has had enough of advertising as such,

    When there are advertisements, I switch the channel. It doesn't hit a damn if one day I see the same advertisement for the tenth time, which is sometimes terribly stupid (e.g. OldSpice, Żubra, CillitBang, washing agents)
    Artur k. wrote:
    if the TV program is cleverly made, it will have an audience.

    It's just that they do something like that.
  • #24 14847717
    VooFy
    Level 10  
    Today, brick houses, there are companies that move it, but the costs are probably greater than the destruction of the old and building a new one.
  • #25 14847735
    alikatek
    Level 29  
    You can see that we have moved away from the main thread.
  • #26 14848064
    Berend
    Level 17  
    TV gives money, and if you have money, you can do anything,

    only this is a very poor version, please see what the US counterpart looks like. There are as many repair brigades as there are workers to do in the Polish version. In addition, in the USA, everything from scratch (other construction) and here it is renovation, such as tearing off tiles, parquet, etc. and giving new ones, painting the walls, replacing furniture, burying at the roof or facade.
  • #27 14848259
    dedito
    Level 39  
    Berend wrote:
    Television gives money
    Probably a sponsor.
  • #28 14848343
    Berend
    Level 17  
    Television earns its living from advertising, but there is no shortage of advertising on Polsat.
  • #29 14848371
    dedito
    Level 39  
    Berend wrote:
    Television earns its living from advertising, but there is no shortage of advertising on Polsat.
    Then you discovered America.
  • #30 14848559
    strucel
    Level 35  
    Berend wrote:
    TV gives money, and if you have money, you can do anything,

    only this is a very poor version, please see what the US counterpart looks like. There are as many repair brigades as there are workers to do in the Polish version. In addition, in the USA, everything from scratch (other construction) and here it is renovation, such as tearing off tiles, parquet, etc. and giving new ones, painting the walls, replacing furniture, burying at the roof or facade.


    Well, Poland is not the US, first, sponsors / advertisers are poorer and the audience is smaller, secondly, note that this program from America not only brings income from the emission of advertising, but then the emission rights are sold to many other countries, so it earns again. with us, it could be a disservice - if the tax office would charge the tax on the donation, the recipient would have a problem, besides, some more serious renovation is a multi-month meeting with officials for permits / permits, etc.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and funding of rapid home renovation programs like "Our New Home." Participants express skepticism about the possibility of completing significant renovations in just five days, citing logistical challenges such as drying times for paints and tiles, and the need for thorough planning and material procurement. Concerns are raised about the source of funding for these projects, with suggestions that advertising revenue from the show plays a crucial role. Participants also discuss the selection process for families involved in the program and the fate of their belongings during renovations. The conversation highlights the differences between local and American renovation shows, emphasizing the latter's more extensive resources and production quality.
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