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Discussion on 10-Story Building Renovation: Drilling Holes and Dealing with Large Open Spaces

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  • #1 9589627
    Giselhert
    Level 10  
    Hello, I am a resident of a 10-story building with the so-called "big plate". During the renovation and drilling new holes in the ceiling, I broke through a thin layer of plaster (I don't know if it was even 1 cm thick) and a large open space appeared to me. It probably extends over the entire kitchen and is about 22 cm between the plaster and the concrete ceiling. Is this normal in this construction or did someone make a terrible fuszerka? Will plaster be enough to patch this hole so that it looks whatever it is?

    Discussion on 10-Story Building Renovation: Drilling Holes and Dealing with Large Open Spaces
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  • #2 9589740
    reaven22
    Level 31  
    Maybe it's a suspended ceiling made of plasterboard. The board is 12mm thick.
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  • #3 9589879
    Giselhert
    Level 10  
    It may be suspended, but I don't see any cardboard there. Its different thickness is strange. Where the hole was created, it is thin and crumbles from the touch, in other places it is over 5-6 cm and you can normally attach pins. In addition, there is a lot of debris on the mines, some fist-sized pieces.
  • #4 9589963
    carot
    Level 26  
    Then put your phone in there with the lamp on and record the image in a circle and you'll see what's there.
  • #5 9591288
    DJ_Opornik
    Level 21  
    Releasing the structure. In my house there are channels with a tubular cross-section (vertical) in the walls, so in the thinnest place the wall is also about 1 cm. It does not weaken the slabs too much, but significantly reduces the weight of the building and the pressure on the foundation.

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  • #6 9591299
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    This may be the so-called Ackerman ceiling.
  • #8 9591707
    Giselhert
    Level 10  
    There is solid concrete there, so bricks are not an option. I wonder if these are not deliberately created spaces to improve sound attenuation / reduce heat loss.
  • #9 9591773
    jdjan1
    Level 26  
    Hello!

    Or maybe there is no point in making a theory, just look at the photo? :D
    :arrow: Giselhert you just hit the channel. Perhaps this hole was already made there at the construction stage and was covered with plaster by the contractors.
    Often, the channels were used to pull wires and to make it easier, a hole was cut every 2 - 3 m, which was later covered with plaster.

    Regards

    Jan

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  • #10 9591902
    Giselhert
    Level 10  
    If they are channels, as you suggest, they are in the shape of an inverted U, i.e. open from the bottom because there is only a thin layer of plaster there. I've sealed it with putty for now and hope the ceiling doesn't fall on my head one day :D
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  • #11 9592277
    MiL999
    Level 26  
    You must have recently moved in because there is not a single thing that will amaze you in a large slab :)
  • #12 9601115
    Giselhert
    Level 10  
    I've been living for 2 years now, so I managed to taste the charms of this building, but you're probably right, not one thing will surprise me yet :)
  • #13 9601170
    maciek_slon
    Level 29  
    You will be surprised when one day you discover, for example, bricked up 3-4 m ^ 2, somewhere near the hall ;-)
  • #14 9601548
    carot
    Level 26  
    maciek_slon wrote:
    walled up for amen 3-4 m ^ 2, somewhere near the hall

    Meaning how?
  • #16 9602013
    Giselhert
    Level 10  
    Fortunately, there is no chute on our floor, but there are Prussians, or rather there were, fortunately, we managed to eradicate them in about a month for less than PLN 18 using borax-based powder. If anyone has problems with cockroaches, write and I will recommend you a really effective remedy.
  • #17 9602080
    carot
    Level 26  
    How good it is to live in your own home :P But I also used to live in an old block of flats in the People's Republic of Poland, and it's strange, but there were no vermin. Are they in every block?
  • #18 9602083
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Giselhert wrote:
    Fortunately, there is no chute on our floor

    He had to be. So where is it?
  • #19 9602210
    maciek_slon
    Level 29  
    _lemon_ wrote:
    maciek_slon wrote:
    walled up for amen 3-4 m ^ 2, somewhere near the hall

    Meaning how?


    Utility rooms are sometimes made on the upper floors, sometimes the doors are bricked up; PI an empty chamber is created, I know people who enlarged their hall by breaking through to such rooms :-) The perfect place for a wardrobe...
  • #20 9602883
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics
    maciek_slon wrote:


    Utility rooms are sometimes made on the upper floors, sometimes the doors are bricked up; PI an empty chamber is created, I know people who enlarged their hall by breaking through to such rooms :-) The perfect place for a wardrobe...


    Very often these rooms were located at the back of the passenger lift shaft, which had a smaller shaft in relation to the freight one. Empty space was used in this way. Sometimes there were two rooms, a chute and a storage room. for strollers.
  • #21 9603332
    Giselhert
    Level 10  
    This is exactly what it looks like in this block. And the chute openings are on every second level, although in my opinion they should be bricked up because they spread only bacteria and bad smell.
  • #22 9877804
    stanislawl
    Level 10  
    Hello,

    I have the same problem - hole in the ceiling. I "glued" the mounting foam, then I will apply the finishing coat. I hope it will be ok. Interestingly, I made it... with a broom stick (neighbors were making noise, I tapped to give a "signal for silence", and the stick got stuck).

    That it is a ceiling "with channels" - I understand it. But ... from this hole a lot of crumbs spilled on me: concrete, bricks and some pieces of plywood (?) Where did it come from in the ceiling?

    Regards

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a resident's experience with a renovation in a 10-story building, specifically addressing the discovery of a large open space above the kitchen ceiling after drilling. The resident questions whether this is typical for such construction or indicative of poor workmanship. Responses suggest that the ceiling may be a suspended type or an Ackerman ceiling, with some participants proposing that the space could be channels for wiring or sound attenuation. Concerns about the structural integrity and the appropriateness of using plaster to patch the hole are raised, with suggestions to inspect the area further using a phone camera. The conversation also touches on the presence of utility rooms and potential vermin issues in older buildings.
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