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Electric motor maintenance. To lubricate or not to lubricate?

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  • #1 14863016
    kaazmaze
    Level 2  
    Electric motor maintenance. To lubricate or not to lubricate? Electric motor maintenance. To lubricate or not to lubricate?

    Hello, forgive the layman but I have a question: is there any point in lubricating the electric motor? In the attached pictures you can see what it looks like - I took apart the motor from the fan from the kitchen hood, it was heavily greased and dirty, as such I cleaned it and hence my question. I thought that by lubricating the bushing going into the hole of the cube with the winding, the motor will spin more smoothly. Please support me in solving this dilemma whether to lubricate and if so with what?
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  • #2 14863108
    anders11
    Level 30  
    In the bathroom fan is worth lubricating , there working in the humidity
    I recommend silicone oil
    Kitchen, however, not necessarily. The environment of steam and grease will form quite effectively lubricating emulsion.
    But it is worthwhile from time to time to clean the excess of this slush for sure.
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  • #3 14863159
    masonry
    Level 30  
    kaazmaze wrote:
    I thought that by lubricating the bushing going into the hole of the winding block, the engine will spin more smoothly.


    If I understood correctly what you think the bushing is, it seems to me that you want to lubricate the rotor.
    If so, do not do it under any circumstances. The only thing you can do is to give a few drops each on the pan (bushings).
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    #4 14863283
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    Nowadays pan engine manufacturers do not use felt inserts that caused the engine to fly for years . What this means needless to say . I recommend to add such disks of felt that would touch the pan of course earlier sprinkle them with machine oil ( vaseline )will last longer .
  • #5 14863447
    kaazmaze
    Level 2  
    Thanks a lot for your help, rotor - that's the word I missed, pan similarly, I understand that it's the part holding the longer rotor shaft in the holder attached to the winding block. And only there lubrication. Additional question, something special, suitable for cleaning the inside of the cube? Degreaser spray? However, there is a bit of oily dust there, as if rust particles, which by wiping alone does not want to disappear completely. Just blowing out something weakly works.
  • #6 14866644
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #7 14870980
    supchem
    Level 21  
    And I have a question why boil the plain bearing in oil and how will it help? I have never heard of such a thing.
    Ps I don't mean to make excuses, just curious because I've never heard of it.
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  • #8 14871232
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #9 14877883
    supchem
    Level 21  
    And all is clear, thank you for the explanation. :D I will try this method someday as I will disassemble something where there is such a bearing.
  • #10 15092950
    Artek_łódź
    Level 17  
    I will follow the topic. Well, I wanted to lightly lubricate the motor in the mini washing machine, but it looks like it is unsealed (riveted). It looks like this:

    Electric motor maintenance. To lubricate or not to lubricate? Electric motor maintenance. To lubricate or not to lubricate?


    I want to lubricate it in the places marked with an arrow, using a syringe - gently lubricate the top of the rotor, the shaft. Is it possible to use a drop of mineral engine oil for this purpose, or is it better to use silicone oil? Can WD as a last resort? The shaft is slightly rusted and squeaking in some places. I thought it was the V-belt but moving the rotor dry generates these squeaks. I would appreciate any advice.
  • #11 15093118
    398216 Usunięty
    Level 43  
    Engine oil should help. Drop on each bearing wiggle the shaft until it goes (soaks in) and repeat . It should help.
    Artek_łódź wrote:
    Can WD as a last resort?
    I wouldn't risk it. It is a penetrating preparation (very runny just after leaving the container) after drying admittedly leaves an oily residue, but it is not an oil suitable for high temperatures and loads.
    I used oil for lawnmowers - you can buy at gas stations in small (100 or 200ml - I can not remember now) packages - it will last for years.
  • #12 15093136
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist
    Artek_łódź wrote:
    I want to lubricate it in the places marked with an arrow, using a syringe - gently lubricate the top of the rotor, shaft.


    From the end of the shaft no problem - one two drops of oil. If it squeaks by mouth, then from the other side I would not lubricate, by the way, there the bearing has much milder operating conditions (less transverse torque from the gearbox, more difficult access to dirt).
  • #13 15093159
    Artek_łódź
    Level 17  
    Thank you Colleagues for your quick answers. I hope that lubrication will help, because overnight the rotor of the washing machine began to rotate very hard and squeak. I will also replace the starting capacitor. Greetings!
  • #14 15093177
    398216 Usunięty
    Level 43  
    Artek_łódź wrote:
    I will also replace the starter capacitor.
    And why? Is it defective? It is replaced only when it is obviously damaged - punctured, blown out. In the course of operation, a good capacitor of this type (starter) does not wear out, so there is no legitimate indication to replace it. Why add to the cost unnecessarily?
  • #15 15093321
    Artek_łódź
    Level 17  
    398216 Usunięty wrote:
    And why? Is it damaged?
    There is a suspicion that he is the culprit of all the fuss. It started with the washing machine spinning only in one direction (and noticeably weaker), barely in the other. It then helped to accelerate the rotor with the hand. I should add that this capacitor had already been replaced once, then the symptoms were almost identical and after replacement the washing machine worked well for over a year. Fortunately, it is a small cost ~ PLN 4-5. It is always worth ruling out this possibility as well.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the maintenance of electric motors, specifically the necessity and methods of lubrication. Users debate whether to lubricate motors, particularly in humid environments like bathrooms, where silicone oil is recommended. In kitchen applications, excess grease can create emulsions, complicating lubrication. The importance of cleaning the motor components, especially the rotor and bearings, is emphasized, with suggestions to use degreasers like WD40. The conversation also touches on the use of felt inserts for lubrication and the boiling of bearings in oil to remove contaminants. Additionally, a user inquires about lubricating a mini washing machine motor, seeking advice on suitable oils and methods to address rust and squeaking noises. The consensus is to apply minimal lubrication to specific parts while ensuring thorough cleaning to maintain motor efficiency.
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