KitchenAid 5KSM150 300W - What lubricant for the planetary gear?

Hello.

I noticed on my KitchenAid 5KSM150 Planetary Mixer that grease was leaking from underneath the swivel where a stick or whisk is attached



I called KitchenAid Polska asking if I should be afraid and what is the reason, what sealants will be needed. I got a reply to send the device by courier and it will be repaired because the parts do not sell
I decided to look inside and fix the fault myself. I was the first to take off the band and here I noticed something like oil, in contact with the consistency of grease



I purged the grease from the planetary gear chamber



I cleaned the grease residue with gasoline and dried it. It turned out that the leakage appeared not only from the axis driving the tools, but also on the motor axis and then on the commutator, to the bottom of the housing. I cleaned everything. I verified the parts. OKAY.

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And here the question arises as to which lubricant to apply. It was originally dense brown in color.



... not available on the Polish market. I found out on Vivamix that they use some white food grease, I think Shell Barina or something. Will it not come out? The worst for the commutator.
I wonder why the grease partially delaminated into oil and traveled through the axes to the outside. Not by excessive play. Has the grease gotten old?

I was doing it too, the grease started to break down and leak out. I fixed on the same gaskets.
The commutator must be dry, no gram of grease is allowed.
The same lubricant he used was Orlen's "Gear Lubricant". It works for about two years, it doesn't leak, it doesn't smell. It is quieter than the original.

.... thanks Michal_WWL
I am still thinking about:
- Molykote(R) G-4500
- MOLYKOTE(R) G-1502 FM SYNTHETIC BEARING & GEAR GREASE
- Food grade solid lubricant NSF H1 400g Berner
???

Michał used Orlen's gear lubricant and he runs for two years.
After much thought, I used MOLYKOTE(R) G-1502 FM SYNTHETIC BEARING & GEAR GREASE. Why this one? Adapted, among others for planetary gears, to work with plastic / metal gears and approved for use in the food industry.
I do not close the topic. Someone else write down what lubrication they have applied.
Best regards.

I chose Mobilgrease FM222. NLGI2 class, working temperature up to 180 degrees C, and approved for use in the food industry.
I found the LUBRIPLATE 930-2 was used for Kitchenaid

This problem has affected my mixer, which is 10 years this year (it was not used intensively - only home baking). Thanks to this thread, I already know what is the cause and what lubricants to look for. But I don't know how much grease to apply - please give me tips.

I gave less than 100g of this grease.

Thank you, this is concrete! And is it enough to apply grease only to toothed elements? I know a lack of grease can cause a quick failure, but I'm afraid putting it where it doesn't need to be - also risking at least uncontrolled spills of grease.

All the old grease must be removed, washed with, for example, gasoline, dry and put on moving parts. The grease will set itself inside after a while.

Hello, I'm hooking up to the topic, the woman washed the ends that are used for mixing in the dishwasher, it probably rinsed out the grease and when you put it on, you can't take it off, it's blocked, do you think this grease will be ok? https://allegro.pl/smar-do-maszyn-do-lodow-sp...?reco_id=f75490cc-e8bc-11e8-8830-000af7f5fff0

jacekRCA wrote:

Hello, I'm hooking up to the topic, the woman washed the ends that are used for mixing in the dishwasher, it probably rinsed out the grease and when you put it on, you can't take it off, it's blocked, do you think this grease will be ok? https://allegro.pl/smar-do-maszyn-do-lodow-sp...?reco_id=f75490cc-e8bc-11e8-8830-000af7f5fff0

It's not a lack of lubricant, it's corrosion. The tips are not lubricated. But they are made of aluminum, and some salt-water tablets destroy them.
Examine the surfaces in the center of the tip carefully to make sure it is smooth and straight.

It looks simple inside, but I don't really know how to check if it is smooth. Only one tip causes such problems, i.e. the one for shortcrust dough, the whisk and the hook go in and out without any problems (the whisk was also washed in the dishwasher). I have no idea what is wrong anymore.

Michal_WWL wrote:

I was doing it too, the grease started to break down and leak out. I fixed on the same gaskets.
The commutator must be dry, no gram of grease is allowed.
The same lubricant he used was Orlen's "Gear Lubricant". It works for about two years, it doesn't leak, it doesn't stink. It is quieter than the original.

Hey, I have to dismantle the kenwood chef and replace the grease, I look at these mylocote, but only 400g containers of PLN 110. So it's out, this Orlen gear grease is on?

.... it's been a while and the kitchenaid is working fine.

Hey, I meant the Orlenian one, because this molycote packed in 400g and over a hundred. The robot is worth maybe a few hundred.

Michał used Orlen grease for the gear, but which one? The one for general mechanics, such as automotive, etc., or the one for the food industry? In total, probably any lithium grease etc. will work, others for gears will also work, especially those for high loads. As long as it does not leak into the bowl. They should not be used to lubricate planetary gears, only those for the food industry. If someone noticed the planetary gears, new or used, he saw that they are lubricated with a thin film of grease, they are not completely clogged with grease. This is a bigger dilemma what to lubricate it with. I used a spray lubricant on an ad hoc basis because I had one at hand, more specifically white lithium grease with Teflon, a very small amount. Better that something like this does not go to the bowl. Generally, greases based on vegetable oils, such as sunflower or rapeseed oil, are recommended, they have various thickeners and additives that are said to be harmless, although aluminum is sometimes in the composition
For me, the biggest problem is the planetary head, racks, drives and lubrication of the axis of the tool / agitator holder. From there, black overworked grease can come out and the question arises what to replace it with? Because you can use many greases for the main gearbox, as long as you ensure protection against leaks. Lubricants for industry in the H1 group, i.e. with occasional contact with food, are a lot to choose from, from twenty zlotys for a 400g cartridge. In fact, any other will also work, as long as it does not stink. Because when I sometimes saw such robots after changing the grease, people at home smelled like in a car repair shop.

Hello,
I have a similar problem with my KitchenAid and need to replace the grease.
I have been browsing Molykote greases and basically between Molykote G-1502 FM Synthetic Bearing and Gear Grease, which costs around £200, and Molykote G-4500 FM NSF Approved Synthetic Food Grease, which costs around £120, I don't see much difference.
Can the latter, i.e. Molykote G-4500 also be applied to the KitchenAid? Or has anyone used it?
I also found this lubricant: Synthetic grease with PTFE COGELSA ULTRAGREASE ALFA
https://oleje-smary.pl/pl/p/Smar-syntetyczny-...g-NSF-H1-smar-do-wysokich-temperatur-200C/501
Maybe another food grade grease you recommend? Which one to choose?
Thanks to.

Does this planetary robot work without a bowl and/or whisk?
I was given such a robot by friends to change the grease, as a precaution I wanted to switch it on to see if it works and unfortunately the motor does not run. Does it have a safety feature that prevents it from starting without the bowl? Looking at the quality and thickness of the rollers, I wouldn't be at all surprised if a hand or material got into it, it could do some damage....

>>21488792 >>21488792 .
Perhaps useful info for someone in the future. A friend didn't admit that he tried to do something on his own with the robot - he took the brushes out and put them in the other way round (the brushes have a trapezoidal bevel and if you put them in with the wrong side they don't touch the commutator). Of course I checked this, but I put them in the same way as I took them out and did not take into account that someone had put them in the other way round. It wasn't until I shined a light into the socket that I noticed the bevel in a different place.