Good morning, I would like to present my heating situation in the block of flats where I live.
4-story, 4-staircase building. I live on the 4th top floor. A few years ago, electronic heat dividers were installed in apartments. From then on, heating problems began. Since the time the dividers were installed, no one in the block turns on the radiators in winter. The result is that the fees are the same as before, but it is cold. It can be 17-18 degrees in the apartment. You can`t open the windows because the apartment gets cold and the thermostat may turn on the radiator.
If you tried to turn on the radiator, the subsidies to the already high rent would run into the thousands. Trying to use radiators rationally, i.e. turning them on when you are at home and heating them up to e.g. 20 degrees, may result in an additional payment of about PLN 4,000 in the spring - a neighbor had this happen. People use electric heaters or sit next to the radiator in the kitchen, which is not metered. Only a few managed to move out. The new ones blaspheme and cause trouble in the cooperative and the administration. The cooperative does not want to hear about removing the dividers.
The case was in the press and on TV. The title of the report is more or less the less they play, the more they pay..
I have another apartment in a block of flats where there are no partitions - a housing community. Even though the heating is on maximum in winter and the area is 13 m2 larger, I only pay PLN 35 more for the entire fee. The same number of tenants in both apartments.
From time to time, the cooperative comes up with new ways to persuade people to turn on the radiators. First, some valves were installed on the vent pipes, then the thermostats were replaced with ones starting from number two, i.e. they are supposed to turn on the radiator if the temperature drops below 16 degrees. Unfortunately, these actions do not help and people do not want to turn on these radiators.
This year, they cut out the vent pipes on the top floors and installed automatic vent valves. Additionally, the workers announced that they were installing some sensors in the basements and now the radiators in the kitchen would not heat all the time.
And now the point is, what is the last treatment supposed to do? I can attach a photo of one of the sensors in the basement. What is better about an automatic air vent than these tubes? As a resident of the top floor, I lose out because these pipes will not provide heat. Instead of these tubes, I only have stumps with these valves sticking out and dangling. Turning on your radiator will cause hot water to flow in the risers passing through the lower apartments, which will heat your neighbors. I have no intention of turning on the radiators myself. Opening the window last winter and looking out gained PLN 40 from the divisor. The window was open for maybe 2 minutes. It`s scary to think how much the divider would collect if it counted the entire winter.
Why does the cooperative explain that the dividers cannot be removed, because there are some regulations stating that each apartment must be metered individually, and in other blocks there are no dividers or they have removed them?
4-story, 4-staircase building. I live on the 4th top floor. A few years ago, electronic heat dividers were installed in apartments. From then on, heating problems began. Since the time the dividers were installed, no one in the block turns on the radiators in winter. The result is that the fees are the same as before, but it is cold. It can be 17-18 degrees in the apartment. You can`t open the windows because the apartment gets cold and the thermostat may turn on the radiator.
If you tried to turn on the radiator, the subsidies to the already high rent would run into the thousands. Trying to use radiators rationally, i.e. turning them on when you are at home and heating them up to e.g. 20 degrees, may result in an additional payment of about PLN 4,000 in the spring - a neighbor had this happen. People use electric heaters or sit next to the radiator in the kitchen, which is not metered. Only a few managed to move out. The new ones blaspheme and cause trouble in the cooperative and the administration. The cooperative does not want to hear about removing the dividers.
The case was in the press and on TV. The title of the report is more or less the less they play, the more they pay..
I have another apartment in a block of flats where there are no partitions - a housing community. Even though the heating is on maximum in winter and the area is 13 m2 larger, I only pay PLN 35 more for the entire fee. The same number of tenants in both apartments.
From time to time, the cooperative comes up with new ways to persuade people to turn on the radiators. First, some valves were installed on the vent pipes, then the thermostats were replaced with ones starting from number two, i.e. they are supposed to turn on the radiator if the temperature drops below 16 degrees. Unfortunately, these actions do not help and people do not want to turn on these radiators.
This year, they cut out the vent pipes on the top floors and installed automatic vent valves. Additionally, the workers announced that they were installing some sensors in the basements and now the radiators in the kitchen would not heat all the time.
And now the point is, what is the last treatment supposed to do? I can attach a photo of one of the sensors in the basement. What is better about an automatic air vent than these tubes? As a resident of the top floor, I lose out because these pipes will not provide heat. Instead of these tubes, I only have stumps with these valves sticking out and dangling. Turning on your radiator will cause hot water to flow in the risers passing through the lower apartments, which will heat your neighbors. I have no intention of turning on the radiators myself. Opening the window last winter and looking out gained PLN 40 from the divisor. The window was open for maybe 2 minutes. It`s scary to think how much the divider would collect if it counted the entire winter.
Why does the cooperative explain that the dividers cannot be removed, because there are some regulations stating that each apartment must be metered individually, and in other blocks there are no dividers or they have removed them?
