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VW Passat 2009 2.0 TDI - Error P0651 - the engine does not start

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  • #1 14938657
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    Good evening,

    I hope he writes in the right section.

    Yesterday my Passat stopped starting, I got the message "Engine Fault Workshop!" and the indicator of the candles zarowe (such a yellow spring) began to blink. The car turned but did not start. Today a friend plugged the car under the computer and an error popped out:

    P0651 - Voltage Reference Sensor Reference Current Open - Constant / Sensor Reference Voltage B Circuit / Open Permanent.

    Where to find the fault and how to fix it? Unfortunately, I live in a total village, so I decided to ask here, because maybe the fault can be fixed in some simple way, or maybe it is enough to replace some part ordered via the Internet without the need for towing / tow trucks?
    Thank you very much for your valuable tips.

    The car is VW Passat 2009 2.0 TDI

    greetings
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    #2 14938767
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    What parameters does the G31 boost pressure sensor show?
    What is the error after disconnecting it and what can you see then in the measuring blocks?
  • #3 14939153
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    grala1 wrote:
    What parameters does the G31 boost pressure sensor show?
    What is the error after disconnecting it and what can you see then in the measuring blocks?


    Thanks for the answer. Unfortunately, I am a complete layman .. could you advise where this sensor is located?
    Thanks again
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    #5 14939233
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    Look on the hose going to the intake manifold from the intercooler on the radiator side.
  • #6 14939327
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    Thanks for the answers.

    Is this the sensor it is about? VW Passat 2009 2.0 TDI - Error P0651 - the engine does not start ?
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    #7 14939342
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    Not a differential pressure sensor from the particle filter.
    Look for a sensor on the pipe that feeds air to the intake manifold - a pipe with a diameter of about 60mm.
    Show photos under the hood.
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  • #8 14939353
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    VW Passat 2009 2.0 TDI - Error P0651 - the engine does not start

    Thank you very much.
    greetings
  • #9 14939394
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    Not seen in this photo.
    See the picture.
    Element number 18.
    VW Passat 2009 2.0 TDI - Error P0651 - the engine does not start
    He is screwed to a plastic pipe.
    The sensor has a plug with 4 wires.

    The sensor measures the pressure between the intercooler and the intake manifold, which is supplied with air by a rubber hose (marked in the photo) from the intercooler.
    VW Passat 2009 2.0 TDI - Error P0651 - the engine does not start
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  • #10 14939492
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    grela1 got under the car, unscrewed the plastics and found something like this:

    VW Passat 2009 2.0 TDI - Error P0651 - the engine does not start

    is that it?

    Thanks and regards
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    #11 14939515
    domex32
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    This is the fluid pump for the exhaust gas cooler.

    You have the sensor a bit above this pump, on the plastic hose that brings air to the aluminum throttle which you can see in the photo in the middle of the front of the engine.

    Alternatively, look under the air-conditioning compressor, on the plastic pipe.

    @ grala1 sent a picture of 2 liters but 8 valves on unit injectors, your piping system is different.

    Where did the suggestion about a damaged boost sensor come from?
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    #12 14940254
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #13 14940520
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    Falubaz1 wrote:
    If not - take the car to a specialist.



    Hey, thanks for the answer.

    Unfortunately, however, I gave up and took the car to the mechanics, because I need it for the next week. Upon receipt, I will describe what was broken and how it was repaired.

    Many thanks for the answers and best regards!
  • #14 14948282
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    Good morning,

    I have news from the mechanic: they mentioned "boost pressure sensor" and the problem still exists. The mechanics checked the pump that pumps the fuel from the tank and the pump does not get electricity, the injectors are dry, the car fires on the easy start spray. If someone from you has encountered a similar problem, please advise me.

    Thanks for the answers,

    greetings
    Michael
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    #15 14948318
    fuelinyourblood
    Level 35  
    Unscrew the top from the fuse box under the hood and then see if you turn it or it fires. In addition, in these models there was a service note regarding the steering column. Bad contacts may cause it to smoke.
  • #16 14948379
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    Hey, thanks for the answer.
    The fuse box is open and the problem persists. The mechanic asked to ask which contacts under this steering column to check?
    Thanks a lot for the answer,
    Greetings!
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    #17 14949463
    fuelinyourblood
    Level 35  
    There were recall of the column because it is combined with the steering lock and the ignition. I understand that you have no ignition?

    Have you checked the injectors? Compact injection to the mass and you will not ignite it, and you will not have the error in your memory.
  • #18 14949488
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    fuelinyourblood wrote:
    There were recall of the column because it is combined with the steering lock and the ignition. I understand that you have no ignition?


    I checked with a vin dealer and my car doesn't qualify. Yes, the car does not start, but it does spin the starter.

    fuelinyourblood wrote:

    Have you checked the injectors? Compact injection to the mass and you will not ignite it, and you will not have the error in your memory.


    The injectors (if they are the same as the injectors) are dry - they do not get fuel.
    My mechanic puts on a pump from the tank because there is no electricity for some reason - is it possible that this is a compact injection?

    Many thanks for the valuable hint - I'm already calling the mechanic with this news!
    Best wishes!
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    #19 14949503
    fuelinyourblood
    Level 35  
    Is there a power supply, for example, on the ecu. flow, or egr? If you give the voltage on the fuel pump, will it ignite?
  • #20 14950605
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    fuelinyourblood wrote:
    Is there a power supply, for example, on the ecu. flow, or egr? If you give the voltage on the fuel pump, will it ignite?


    Hey

    the power is on ecu, flow, egr. The pump in the tank does not get tension, but when we stated the voltage, it worked, but the engine still did not start ..
    They also checked this mass at injection and everything seems to be OK.

    Many thanks for the answer.
    greetings
  • #21 14950687
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    I propose to change the mechanic to electronics.
    Who came up with the idea of replacing the boost pressure sensor?
    You didn't answer the questions I asked in post 2.
    What is the supply voltage of the boost pressure sensor.
    You suggest something to the mechanic and he mentions it.
    He will be replacing your steering lock in a moment.
    Anyone at all checked whether the engine controller can see the speed of the engine (shaft)?
  • #22 14950703
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    Hey grala1,

    The voltage is 4.5v.
    When we turn the starter, the computer shows the correct engine speed.
    Thanks for the answer
    greetings
  • #23 14950754
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    What pressure does the EDC see?
    Will there be an error if you unplug the pressure sensor?
  • #24 14950758
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    Yes, an error pops up like a sensor unfastened. I will ask about the pressure.
    Thanks!
  • #25 14965843
    michalB6
    Level 11  
    Hello everyone on this topic. The car was repaired - the oil cooler melted the cables running next to it and hence the action. Cables repaired - the car starts and drives. Many thanks for all the advice in this thread.
    Greetings!

    VW Passat 2009 2.0 TDI - Error P0651 - the engine does not start

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a 2009 VW Passat 2.0 TDI that fails to start, displaying the error code P0651, indicating a voltage reference issue. The user seeks advice on diagnosing and fixing the problem without towing the vehicle. Responses suggest checking the G31 boost pressure sensor and its wiring, as well as inspecting the fuel pump and electrical connections. The user later reports that the mechanic identified melted cables near the oil cooler as the root cause, which were repaired, allowing the car to start and operate normally.
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