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How to Connect SATEL INTEGRA 32 With Mobilus COSMO E for Roller Shutter Automation?

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  • #1 15352677
    rafniem
    Level 9  
    Hello

    I am going to install a Satel Integra 32 set in my house (four motion detectors, a magnetic detector for the entrance door and an external signalling device). Separately, I have ordered KRISPOL roller shutters with MOBILUS motors, radio-controlled COSMO E Receiver 868MHz ODB.MM.001 and COSMO_HT remote control (9 channels)
    I have 6 roller shutters all on the ground floor, the control panel is also on the ground floor. The question is what do I need to connect these roller shutters with the INTEGRA system by wire. And whether these two systems will possibly be compatible. I'm mainly concerned whether the roller shutters will close if I arm the alarm. And the second issue is the automation of the roller shutters themselves.
    i have the following scenario: the roller shutter remote control I ordered has an automatic option (e.g. closes every day at 10 p.m. opens every day at 6 a.m., so called holiday function). Now I am going on holiday, of course I will arm the alarm and activate the automatic function from the remote control. Will the alarm be triggered or can the control unit handle this?

    Many thanks in advance for your help.

    Best regards
    R
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  • #2 15353748
    marek216
    Level 43  
    rafniem wrote:
    I'm mainly concerned about whether the roller shutters will close if I set the alarm.


    This is feasible via a relay connected to the output of the control panel
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  • #3 18346489
    Kace76
    Level 2  
    Hello, please let me know how you solved the issue because I have a similar problem and the electrician proposes additional cables between the satellites and the roller shutters which doesn't suit me because of the cost
  • #4 18346501
    bhtom
    Level 39  
    Welcome,

    Sorry to ask... How much do such "cables" cost that it is such an expense?

    Greetings.
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  • #5 18346684
    kood
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    If it is also a mobilus Cosmo wireless system, where are these cables supposed to go? This system has a module to which you send a signal from the control panel and this module wirelessly commands the roller shutters to open/close.
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  • #6 18347842
    Kace76
    Level 2  
    kood wrote:
    If this is also a mobilus Cosmo wireless system, where are these cables supposed to go? This system has a module to which you send a signal from the control panel and this module wirelessly commands the roller shutters to open/close.


    The cables would go between the INT- ORS expander and the roller shutter.
    The question as it occurred to me after the answer is:
    1. Is the module you are writing about on the mobilus side the Cosmo GTW or something else?
    2. What is required on the Satel infrastructure side to communicate with the Cosmo module?
    3. Is there access to a single roller shutter after integration from the Satel control panel?

    thanks in advance for the reply
  • #7 18348006
    kood
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    Kace76 wrote:
    1. Is the module you are writing about on the mobilus side the Cosmo GTW or something else?
    2

    Mobilus C-AR

    Kace76 wrote:
    2. What is required on the Satel infrastructure side to communicate with the Cosmo module?
    2

    Relay connected to the output of the control panel.

    Kace76 wrote:
    3. Is there access to a single roller shutter after integration from the Satel control panel?
    2

    I am not familiar enough with the mobilus system to answer this question. Certainly with a single C-AR module this would not be possible.
  • #8 18348087
    alster1
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    I have an unpleasant experience with mobilus (one-off).
    Yes, the remote control has an automation option, but in a fairly large house, the roller shutters furthest away from the remote control did not receive the signal, and the same situation occurred with the C-AR module.
    Personally, if I were to install mobilus at home, I would prefer to go with a different system or cables.
  • #9 18387337
    mobilusmotor

    Level 11  
    Day of the day - regarding the lack of coverage - all Mobilus radio devices (receivers) have a built-in signal repeater. It is deactivated at the factory - please try to activate this function in the device to eliminate the described problems. Tip - use this function by activating it in the smallest number of devices required for proper operation. A larger number of active repeaters generates and duplicates a very large number of signals. That is to say - on the path between the controller and the most distant receiver, we suggest activating in the receiver to which the signal without any interference. This should solve the previously described inconvenience.
    Company Account:
    Mobilus Motor Spółka z o.o.
    Miętowa 37, Poznań, 61-680 | Tel.: +48 XX XXX XX XX (Show) | Company Website: www.mobilus.pl
  • #10 18387399
    alster1
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    It's nice that the company @mobilusmotor has spoken up on the forum, hopefully this is not a one-off.
    As for my Mobilus adventure described earlier, the roller shutters were installed by another company, the receivers supposedly built in, I was just doing the 'integration' with the alarm system.
    I, as the SSWiN installer, was not allowed to interfere with the roller shutters (warranty), while the roller shutter company said that the system is as it is and there is nothing more they can do about it. I don't know whether it is their ignorance or a lack of information in the documentation of the equipment.
    I personally did not find any information about a signal repeater.
    Quote from the actuator manual:
    "The range of the radio control is limited by the regulations regarding the maximum power of the remote controls and the installation conditions of the devices. When designing the layout of the remote controls, the range limitation of approximately 25 m through 2 walls should be taken into account."

    ps. I found a description of the repeater function in the ERS actuator manual.
  • #11 18389020
    mobilusmotor

    Level 11  
    I will endeavour to participate actively in the forum and assist in kind if problems arise. Back on topic - information about repeaters can be found in the manuals of devices that have this functionality, i.e. all radio drives and radio modules.
    Company Account:
    Mobilus Motor Spółka z o.o.
    Miętowa 37, Poznań, 61-680 | Tel.: +48 XX XXX XX XX (Show) | Company Website: www.mobilus.pl
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