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High-Pitched Sound from Fuse Box when 3.5 kW Air Conditioner is On in a 12.5 kW Apartment

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  • #31 15592530
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    maniek998straz wrote:
    I write 3.5 kW, I thought, just like everyone said that 3.5 kW is 3.5 kW


    Of course, this is the cooling capacity of the device, not power consumption.

    Łukasz-O wrote:
    In the case of this "extended box", it will reduce the assembly time from 30 to 10 minutes


    I would not say that inserting one bridge between the 1st and 4th fuse will shorten the assembly time, but let it be as it wants.
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  • #32 15592562
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics
    mawerix123 wrote:


    I would not say that inserting one bridge between the 1st and 4th fuse will shorten the assembly time, but let it be as it wants.


    Not a "bridge", but two "bridges". Three phase and single phase. Of course, with a different power supply approach to the RCD.
  • #33 15592578
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    Łukasz-O wrote:
    Not a "bridge", but two "bridges". Three phase and single phase.


    Fair enough, but I still don't see the point ;)
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    #34 15592609
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics
    mawerix123 wrote:


    Fair enough, but I still don't see the point ;)

    To tell the truth, will there be combs or cable bridges in the author's current switchgear (estimate that they pulled at the sleeves ;) ) she is still suitable for d..y.
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  • #35 15592654
    maniek998straz
    Level 8  
    I apologize to everyone for misleading, but I'm just a fireman, and with electrics, all I have to do is disconnecting the battery in the car during an operation.

    So now that it's clear that I misled everyone, does anyone have any idea about this noise???

    The electrician won't be here until Wednesday, and I'd rather know what I don't have to think about.

    Regarding this box, I will actually add what you wrote about and I will replace it.
  • #36 15592723
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics
    maniek998straz wrote:
    I apologize to everyone for misleading, but I'm only a fireman, and with electrics, I have nothing to do with anything but disconnecting the battery in a car during an operation.

    And if the apartment / house is on fire? By the way, it's nice that you came to us, I will have a few questions about your procedures for sure. This time as a layman, of course :D



    maniek998straz wrote:
    The electrician won't be here until Wednesday, and I'd rather know what I don't have to think about.

    Regarding this box, I will actually add what you wrote about and replace it.

    Electrician from the developer or yours?
    If from the developer, refer to the law link , and more precisely on § 188. 2.

    In the electrical installation in the apartment, separate circuits should be used: lighting, general purpose plug sockets, plug sockets in the bathroom, plug sockets for receiving devices in the kitchen and circuits for receivers requiring individual protection. "

    Just to clarify, circuits that require individual protection, i.e. for devices over 2 kW: dishwasher, washing machine, oven (if not connected to the hob).
    In 2008, in my apartment, I won a refund from the developer for connecting the circuit to the dishwasher in the kitchen.
  • #37 15592957
    beam_beer
    Level 23  
    Łukasz-O wrote:

    I do not want to comment on the LVS modular equipment, because I have never dealt with it.


    Cheap Chinese crap.
  • #38 15593030
    maniek998straz
    Level 8  
    The electrician will be mine now. I exchange it all from the wall including the box, a separate circuit to the kitchen I can't let go anymore, I'll just have to plug in somewhere.

    The dishwasher is A +++ so it will not load this circuit very much?

    Regarding this sound, after replacing everything, it should go away???
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  • #39 15593119
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    beam_beer wrote:
    Łukasz-O wrote:

    I do not want to comment on the LVS modular equipment, because I have never dealt with it.


    Cheap Chinese crap.


    Enter the manufacturer's data since it is Chinese according to you, from what I know LVS is located in Toruń --> http://www.lvs-polska.pl/?cat=600

    maniek998straz wrote:
    The dishwasher is A +++ so it will not load this circuit very much?


    The class of the device is not only power consumption but also other parameters as in the case of a dishwasher, e.g. water consumption, etc. As in the 3.5kW air conditioner, this does not apply to the electrical power of this device ;)

    maniek998straz wrote:
    Regarding this sound, after replacing everything, it should go away???


    Probably yes.
  • #40 15593152
    Topolski Mirosław
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    mawerix123 wrote:
    beam_beer wrote:
    Łukasz-O wrote:

    I do not want to comment on the LVS modular equipment, because I have never dealt with it.


    Cheap Chinese crap.


    Enter the manufacturer's data since it is Chinese according to you, from what I know LVS is located in Toruń --> http://www.lvs-polska.pl/?cat=600

    Go to the company information and you will understand everything.
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  • #41 15593175
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    Topolski Mirosław wrote:
    Go to the company information and you will understand everything.


    I don't write anything about importing circuit breakers from China, I don't want to defend quick hands here, but Poland often produces worse crap than Asia ;)
  • #42 15593407
    Frog_Qmak
    Level 25  
    From what I know, A++ means energy efficiency - the device can consume up to 100kW, of which only 0.0001% will be wasted (e.g. heating wires), and the rest will be used in the correct way (example)
  • #43 15593445
    r-maniac
    Level 15  
    maniek998straz wrote:

    And should I replace everything from this box with this Eaton???


    There are other manufacturers of electrical installation equipment, e.g. Hager or General Electric, these companies also produce good components.

    maniek998straz wrote:

    I write 3.5 kW, I thought, just like everyone said that 3.5 kW is 3.5 kW: /


    This is the cooling power of the air conditioner, and the electric power consumption depends on the declared EER/COP ratio and varies depending on the manufacturer of the device.

    Łukasz-O wrote:

    I do not want to comment on the LVS modular equipment, because I have never dealt with it.


    As my colleagues have mentioned before, cheaper components can't be found anymore, so we know what the developer's guideline was.

    mawerix123 wrote:
    Topolski Mirosław wrote:
    Go to the company information and you will understand everything.


    I don't write anything about importing circuit breakers from China, I don't want to defend quick hands here, but Poland often produces worse crap than Asia ;)


    Unfortunately, nothing from the range of this manufacturer is produced in Toruń, everything comes directly from you know where. Most of them are price, price and price again.

    Łukasz-O wrote:

    You're exaggerating the 90% a bit. Yes, some people fly at cost, but you can't generalize like that.


    In fact, I exaggerated, but seeing probably dozens of apartments, I can practically count on the fingers of one hand well-designed and made installations.

    Łukasz-O wrote:

    A reliable developer is recognized not only by the high standard of finish, such as marble and gres tiles on the staircases, but also by the switchgear in the apartment.


    The problem is that few buyers know about it and pay attention to it.
  • #44 15594254
    maniek998straz
    Level 8  
    Thank you all for your help, and again sorry for this misrepresentation :)

    Today there was an electrician by force I packed it in the car and in fact according to him it is also this contraption, tomorrow he is to take care of it and the rest of these gadgets too ;)

    I'll let you know if it helped :)

    Thanks again :)
  • #45 15594331
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    maniek998straz wrote:

    I'll let you know if it helped :)


    Write, write, because my own ears are screaming...
  • #46 15596884
    maniek998straz
    Level 8  
    Gentlemen, I declare that the problem has been solved today :D

    The culprit was this gadget with the Test button ;)

    Legrand is sitting now.

    For now, only this is mentioned, and on Wednesday I will work with the rest, unfortunately I do not have the opportunity to run additional circuits, because I already have almost everything in the apartment covered, so I don't like to break the walls :/

    Again, many thanks for your help :)
  • #47 15596895
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    maniek998straz wrote:
    Legrand is sitting now.


    Nothing crazy, but something better ;)
  • #48 15596931
    maniek998straz
    Level 8  
    No worries, what would be better??? Because he installed it for me because he had it with him and shopping will be only on Wednesday, so what to take???

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a high-pitched sound emanating from the fuse box when a 3.5 kW air conditioner is activated in a 12.5 kW apartment. The user, currently in the renovation phase, seeks advice on the issue. Responses suggest potential causes, including the inverter operation of the air conditioner and issues with the switchgear, such as poor filtration or inadequate circuit protection. Recommendations include consulting an electrician, taking photos of the switchgear, and possibly replacing circuit breakers with higher-rated ones, such as B20 or from brands like EATON. The user later identifies the noise source as a faulty device related to the circuit protection, which was resolved by replacing it with a Legrand component.
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