C-360 Tractor Engine Oil: Comparing Superol Milvus 15w40 & Turdus 15w40 for Seasonal Change

Hello.
It's time to change the engine oil on my C-360 and I am wondering what oil to buy. So far I run the second season on the oil, which I change every season with superol milvus 15w40, but now I'm going to pour it with superol turdus 15w40 oil, because I've heard that this oil has some better properties, and now I have a question whether to stay with milvus or take it easy can be changed to turdus.

I will say yes he he he oils are worth each other. Flood and don't worry.

if you have everything done as it should in the engine, it is easy to change, as recently I also changed from milvus to turdus

Turdus will be ok. Price is good, and you don't need some high-end oil for the C-360. I switched from Texaco to Turdus myself because of the price and availability. And the quality is similar.

the price is very similar depending on where you buy it and the engine works better when it is cold and hot.

Hello.

How much oil goes into the engine?

Regards.

Check the manual. It is even available "online".

Maybe a bit more expensive, but I would recommend Turdus 10W40. Makes it much easier to start in winter. With respect. Regards.

10 liters enter the engine from the C-360.

sewo.k wrote:

I will say yes he he he oils are worth each other

Do you really think Turdus is qualitatively the same as Superol? In my opinion, you are exaggerating ...

These are bad oils both, but for an engine over 50 years old, it can be. Personally, I prefer to add a little and pour something branded. Especially since I drive the tractor all year round.

seweryn7701 wrote:

Personally, I prefer to add a little and pour something branded.

Do not exaggerate anymore that you would pour Motula or Liqui Moly for PLN 30 per liter on the old tractor ...

seweryn7701 wrote:

Especially since I drive the tractor all year round.

What oil do you recommend from these so-called "branded"?

It is better to pour even worse oil and change it regularly than some people will flood the better one and do not change it after 2-3 seasons, because I poured "branded oil".

Better to pour better and change regularly.
I flood the old Rus Mobile Delvac. Change every 250 mth, where in Ruthenian it corresponds to at least 600 hours of work. Up to such a 60, the difference in price is about PLN 40. So it is worth pouring in the worst oils on the market today, such as turdus, superol at the cost of two bottles of vodka? Probably not.

seweryn7701 wrote:

Better to pour better and change regularly.
I flood the old Rus Mobile Delvac. Change every 250 mth, where in Russian it corresponds to at least 600 hours of work. Up to such a 60, the price difference is about PLN 40. So it is worth pouring in the worst oils on the market today, such as turdus, superol at the cost of two bottles of vodka? Probably not.

What is 250 hours of regular hours? I prefer to pour turdus and change every 150 mtg, after 250 this delvac is pitch black, nothing to brag about. Turdus is a good oil for Polish Ursus, additionally all-year-round.

hevet2 wrote:

seweryn7701 wrote:

Better to pour better and change regularly.
I flood the old Rus Mobile Delvac. Change every 250 mth, where in Ruthenian it corresponds to at least 600 hours of work. Up to such a 60, the difference in price is about PLN 40. So it is worth pouring in the worst oils on the market today, such as turdus, superol at the cost of two bottles of vodka? Probably not.

What is 250 hours of regular hours? I prefer to pour turdus and change every 150 mtg, after 250 this delvac is pitch black, nothing to brag about. Turdus is a good oil for Polish Ursus, additionally all-year-round.

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If you do not have an engine, after 5 mth you will have tar instead of oil ...

The book replacement in the tractor I have is every 250 mth and there is no problem with the Delvak. I used to do a lot of tractor work and I did it and I know how well the engine looks after a superol or turdus. I avoid this rush from a distance.

seweryn7701 wrote:

I flood the old Rus Mobile Delvac. Change every 250 mth, where in Ruthenian it corresponds to at least 600 hours of work. Up to such a 60, the difference in price is about PLN 40.

I looked at the offer of the store where I usually get supplies, and there mobil delvac in a 20 liter canister costs PLN 270 and Turdus PLN 225. So it is only a PLN 2.5 difference per liter of oil. In the car, when I changed the oil to buy something of a better class, you have to spend at least PLN 10 / l more, and here it is only PLN 2 difference and already such a big quality leap? It's a bit suspicious in my opinion.

seweryn7701 wrote:

So it is worth pouring in the worst oils on the market today, such as turdus, superol at the cost of two bottles of vodka? Probably not.

Is it worth answering this question if it is known what profits will be from it? If, as a result of pouring better oil, the engine is to withstand, for example, 20% more mth, then of course it is worth forgetting a few bottles of vodka. But if it is to withstand maybe 100 mth more, I don't know if it will be profitable ...

seweryn7701 wrote:

Change every 250 mth, where in Ruthenian it corresponds to at least 600 hours of work

Something long in my opinion. In the C330, they recommend replacing every 100 mth, and the Russian engine is structurally not so different from the Ursus, so that the oil should be changed 2.5 times less often.

Xantix wrote:

Is it worth answering this question if it is known what profits will be from it? If, as a result of pouring better oil, the engine is to withstand, for example, 20% more mth, then of course it is worth forgetting a few bottles of vodka. But if it is to withstand maybe 100 mth more, I don't know if it will be profitable ...

It is worth it for the fact that when dismantling such an engine later, everything is clean, and not killed with tar or other muck that cannot be cleaned. You change the oil, the oil is flying, not a septic tank made of superol or turdus. After all, Delvac is an oil intended for trucks, I buy it myself from a barrel from a friend who has been pouring it into a dozen of his trucks for several years ...

bearq wrote:

You change the oil, the oil is flying, not a septic tank made of superol or turdus.

I replace it every 100 mth or once a year and there has never been a "septic tank" after Turdus, as you call it. After Superol, yes, but not after Turdus ...

bearq wrote:

It is worth it for the fact that when dismantling such an engine later, everything is clean, and not killed with tar or other muck that cannot be cleaned.

In my experience, the amount of muck is more influenced by the frequency of replacement than the oil grade. If you change the oil every 5 years (and I know such tractor drivers), even on a motula you will get muck in the engine. If you replace it regularly, Turdus shouldn't have your engine sucked.

bearq wrote:

After all, Delvac is an oil intended for trucks

And Turdus is not intended for trucks? No argument for me.

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BTW. Since Turdus is the worst oil on the market, what can you say about all three-letter companies that produce the so-called Superole for PLN 5 / liter?

And that's what I'm getting at. The price difference is small and the oil differs a lot. It is not the mobil that should be more expensive and the turdus should cost half of what it costs because it is not worth more. This is where it's overpaid.

Belarus is a year-old engine of a similar age, but somehow it can do a dozen or so thousand mth, not just 8 as 60. With this mileage, you will definitely notice the difference with the better oil. As I mentioned, there is an oil change every 250 mtz and that's how I change it. The tractor in his life has not seen a Polish stick imported from Germany, I have been pouring a mobile or an elf for almost 10 years and a month ago when adjusting the valves, the view ... cleanly. I suppose that turdus would not come out of the drain plug and I used to rummage with tractors and I know what it looked like.

Does it make sense to replace it more often with worse oil? No benefit, the cost is greater and the work is unnecessary.
Turdus for trucks? He he believe me I don't know anyone who would pour it into any engine except a few owners of old Ursus.

Until the 60's, as I mentioned, pour and oil and the tractor are worth each other and with the mileage that coconut does and it will not achieve great benefits.

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If you do not have an engine, after 5 mth you will have tar instead of oil ...

You're talking about yourself? You wish you had tractor engines like mine. Nobody changes the oil in the tractor less frequently than every 150 hours of work. And delvace and other miracles will not help. Pour him "only" turdus "and change it on time and the tar will not be there. As for this manual with a change every 250 hours, show it to me, I will believe it (Russian people were different sometimes, but that would be so).

Overall, at this point you have shown complete ignorance, and your theories are purely premiss. Example....
The 60's manual recommends changing the dedicated superol oil every 200 mth. Only those who know turdus or superol change it more often because this oil, before pouring it into the engine, is only suitable for lubricating the blade. So turdus is so good that you have to change it 50 mth earlier? Bu ha ha ha ... My reaction.
The Ruthenian manual is on the net and even if there are others, the mileage on the engine well over 10,000 is probably a good testimony.

Out of curiosity .... Your engines are in good shape, since they require oil change after 3/4 mileage.

seweryn7701 wrote:

Overall, at this point you have shown complete ignorance, and your theories are purely premiss. Example....
The 60's manual recommends changing the dedicated superol oil every 200 mth. Only those who know turdus or superol change it more often because this oil is only suitable for lubricating the blade before pouring it into the engine. So turdus is so good that you have to change it 50 mth earlier? Bu ha ha ha ... My reaction.
The Ruthenian manual is on the net and even if there are others, the mileage on the engine well over 10,000 is probably a good testimony.

Out of curiosity .... Your engines are in good shape, since they require oil change after 3/4 mileage.

You're talking nonsense because in the C 330 and C 360 the instruction recommends a replacement every 150 mtg, what and what does your Russian look like inside? Don't mention but don't tell your cosmic theories.

Out of curiosity, the master looked at the 60's manual and how the bull stands at 200mth. If you don't know the essentials, further discussion is pointless.

seweryn7701 wrote:

He he believe me I don't know anyone who would pour it into any engine except a few owners of old Ursus.

Maybe you are right, but then these few owners of old Ursus engines drive the entire production of LOTOS engine oils? They probably need to change the oil every day. Because LOTOS produces some tonnes of this oil annually. So I wonder what is happening to him ...

seweryn7701 wrote:

Turdus for trucks? He he

The admission has - I'm not saying that it is suitable. It makes no sense to just use the argument that some oil is good because it is recommended for trucks, because even the producer of superol can write that it is approved for trucks.
And by the way - if I had a truck, I wouldn't even flood this Delvac - a minimum of decency would be some Valvoline at least ....

seweryn7701 wrote:

but somehow he can do a dozen or so thousand mth

I do not know if he can do that much, because I have never seen a Russian with such a course. Which doesn't mean you're wrong.

seweryn7701 wrote:

and not just 8 like a 60

8,000 mth is about 20 years of tractor operation for an average Polish farm with crop production (10 ha). Nice for me. And it is known that on 30 hectares, no one will do anything because it is too small ...

seweryn7701 wrote:

I suppose that turdus would not come out of the drain plug and I used to rummage with tractors and I know what it looked like.

And you are 100% sure that it is the fault of the oil and not that the owner changed the oil "once in a Russian month" (sic!) Or from case to case?

seweryn7701 wrote:

Out of curiosity, the master looked at the 60's manual and how the bull stands at 200mth. If you don't know the essentials, further discussion is pointless.

You're right, I'm sorry, I don't know where that 150 hrs came from. probably from a textbook from school (I will not look for it now), but I have not heard that more frequent replacement of any engine would hurt but the 250 hours or more is a slight exaggeration (but that's just my opinion). Only the mobiles say that it does not need to be replaced at all and I am finishing the discussions.

I am tired and I do not want to worry too much, but explain why, for example, modern zetors have an oil change every 500mth? I would like to point out that this is not one of the cheapest oils sold on the market.
If you studied a bit of literature, you would know, for example, on the example of Ursus, that the oil change period increased with its quality. And so when the 4011 had superol 11 replacement every 100 mtz, 60 every 200. This is not the only case, it is enough to mention the times some 20-25 years ago when the transport of Western brands to Poland began. Cymbals poured selektol and were replaced every 10,000 km, when deco better oil calmly without detracting from the pocket and durability of the engine ensured easy use for 15,000. You want to go back to those years, your business, but maybe instead of insisting on the obvious benefit of using a better, slightly more expensive oil, you should quietly recalculate.

And how long will these modern zetors live with this replacement every 500 hours of work? as much as cars with a replacement every 35,000 (4 replacements and a hoof on top) and perfect oils do not help. I do not force anyone to pour as you see fit and well, I will mention the price difference more often. 90 percent of users (for Ursus) pour the cheapest superol from a barrel and they do not forget to replace it, they drive for years. I have finished the topic.

seweryn7701 wrote:

but explain why, for example, modern zetors have an oil change every 500mth?

For the same reason as new cars, they have an oil change every 30,000 - the engine will go out faster. By the way, what about the fact that the quality of modern engines, e.g. cars, has increased, since at the same time the load on the drive units has increased incomparably - after all, no one will tell me that an increase in engine performance by 200% does not cause any negative effects in terms of the load on materials and structures engine. I would even say that with the modern degree of engine tuning, it would be necessary (regardless of the oil quality) to shorten the oil change interval, not to increase it ...

hevet2 wrote:

Only the mobila specialists say that it does not need to be replaced

After all, they are already combining the so-called long life oils that they can be replaced once in a Russian month.