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Step-by-Step Guide: How to Replace Old Radiator Valve with a Thermostatic One

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How do I replace an old radiator manual valve with a thermostatic valve, step by step?

Drain the water from the heating installation first, because otherwise water will escape when you loosen the valve [#15993332] Clean the painted flare fittings, then unscrew the old valve while holding the valve body and the soldered copper fitting with a second wrench so the copper pipes do not twist or tear out of the solder; if the fittings do twist, they may need re-soldering [#15991903] Buy a thermostatic valve that matches the old one’s size and thread, usually the same diameter as stamped on the brass body, often 1/2", and with Danfoss you may need the longer nipple version [#15993098] After installation, refill the system and test it; the head should open and close automatically based on room temperature, so set it and make only small adjustments, for example by opening it to 5 and then backing off until the noise stops [#16000125][#15998457]
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  • #1 15990972
    damian755
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    WiTAM I have such a problem. I have to replace the valve like this, the old radiator is just a knob o and Z. and I want to replace it with a thermostatic valve to regulate this heat and please tell me what to do, step by step, it's best to take Step-by-Step Guide: How to Replace Old Radiator Valve with a Thermostatic One
    Step-by-Step Guide: How to Replace Old Radiator Valve with a Thermostatic One
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    sanfran
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    Block or single-family house?
    In general, cleaning the flare fittings from paint, but as I can see, the copper pipes can twist when unscrewing.
    Besides, draining the water from the installation.
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  • #3 15991903
    Zbigniew Rusek
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    sanfran wrote:
    Block or single-family house?
    Generally cleaning the flare nut from paint, but as I can see, the copper tubing can twist when unscrewing.
    Besides, draining the water from the installation.

    This is obvious, and due to the possibility of twisting these pipes (or weakening the solders), you have to re-solder the copper fittings. To reduce the likelihood of their twisting (unsealing of the solder), it is necessary to hold the valve body with a second key (you need a key 27 and 30 or 2 adjustable wrenches) when unscrewing the screwdriver, and when you unscrew the valve body from the pipe, hold the soldered copper fitting with a second key. so as not to tear it out of the solder when unscrewing it.
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    sanfran
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    Zbigniew Rusek wrote:
    and when unscrewing the valve body from the tube

    Which could be difficult because of the paint.
  • #5 15992850
    damian755
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    And it is necessary. Drain the water? Single-family house. Thanks a lot for any
    Answers and to buy how. It doesn't matter what thermostatic valve?
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    Zbigniew Rusek
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    damian755 wrote:
    It doesn't matter what thermostatic valve?
    First of all, the size of the valve must be correct, otherwise there may be big problems with assembly (both the thread diameter and - if possible - adjusting the length to avoid complications). If it's Danfoss, you will probably need the longer nipple version. The (old) valve size will be stamped on the (brass) valve body - generally 1/2 '' and the new one will be the same diameter.
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    sanfran
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    It is imperative to drain the water. Otherwise, your water will run out of the system when you loosen the valve.
  • #8 15996896
    damian755
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    Ok today I started the exchange. And everything kind of. Approx. Kind of warm. All. But I guess how I do, for example, the power of the head. For example, from 5 to 3, it probably does not get a cooler radiator: - /
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    sanfran
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    Because it will do when the room heats up. This is how the thermostat works.
  • #10 15998026
    damian755
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    I know I understand. But I mean it. She's hot at 5. For example, I would like it to be a little. I set it cooler. On a 4th or 3rd. And there completely. Closing. I have this valve that they are getting cold. Completely. Exactly.
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    Open the valve to 5. Listen to the noise of the water in the radiator. This can be heard near the valve. When it gets warm enough, gently turn the valve on until the noise stops. And you have the valve preset. Then only slight tweaks. But really light.
  • #12 15998575
    REMUR.
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    I conclude that you installed a mechanical thermostatic valve, I used to have one too, but after a short time I replaced it with an electronic one. I have the temperature in the room as set on the panel. Sometimes it is possible to replace the heads from mechanical to electronic, if the valve allows it.

    Step-by-Step Guide: How to Replace Old Radiator Valve with a Thermostatic One
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    Buddy REMUR, just out of curiosity, what batteries are there and how long do they last?
    I used to think about something like that, but in the end I used a central thermostat to control the boiler.
  • #14 15999392
    damian755
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    Yes, I know. That I can regulate. All. I have 5 hot. And when I set it up. At 4 it's already completely slowly getting cold. Do. I bought. It's for PLN 40 with leroy. Invena. Business. Maybe cheap. I am thinking whether or not to replace. For some well-known company. SCHLÖSSER. For example, what do you think. Thank you very much in advance for your answers and best regards
  • #15 15999499
    REMUR.
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    @sanfran 2 AA sticks enter there, they are enough for 1 year.
    The advantage is also that I set the opening and closing hours. In my case it closes at 6 p.m. to keep the bedroom cool and opens at 8 a.m.
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    damian755
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    And what kind of companies do you recommend, up to PLN 60, e.g. PLN 60.70. Because maybe this one is wrong. . .
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    Thermostatic valves do that. When the temperature in the room reaches the temperature set on the head, the water flow closes and the radiator cools down. When the room temperature drops, the head opens the flow and heats it up. Set the head to 3 and see how warm it will be in the room. Do not look at whether the radiator is heating or not. When it's too cold, turn it up for more and vice versa. Don't keep jumping from one setting to the other because you'll never get it right.
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    Unfortunately, such valves have one disadvantage - I want to ventilate the room, so I turn the valve to zero and open the window, the valve detects low temperature and releases heat (despite the fact that it is set to "0") and thus I have a hot radiator with the window open. .
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    hasfar_antabolis wrote:
    this way I have a hot radiator with the window open.

    It blows briefly and intensively, so what's a problem for you, the radiator will heat up for nothing. I am writing because it heats the air flowing into the room.
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    hasfar_antabolis wrote:
    Unfortunately, such valves have one disadvantage - I want to ventilate the room, so I turn the valve to zero and open the window, the valve detects low temperature and releases heat (despite the fact that it is set to "0") and thus I have a hot radiator with the window open. .


    When the valve is set to 0 it should not let off any heat at all. There is something wrong with your valve.
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    Here are the disadvantages of the mechanical head, then I will mention the advantages of my head.
    - "windows" function
    When a window is opened and the temperature drops quickly, the HR 40 will close the thermostatic valve to prevent energy loss. The display will then show OPEN.
    When the temperature starts to rise - after 30 minutes at the latest, the HR 40 will resume normal operation.
    - Protection against "blocking"
    The thermostatic valve opens and closes automatically every Saturday between 10.00 a.m. to 12.00 p.m., regardless of the current operating mode (Auto or Man).
    - Frost protection
    If the temperature drops below 6 ° C, the HR 40 opens the thermostatic valve until it rises above 8 ° C. In this way, the HR 40 protects the valve against freezing.
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    Okay, I already know everything :-) Thank you very much for the answers and best regards :-)
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✨ The discussion revolves around the process of replacing an old radiator valve with a thermostatic valve to regulate heating. Key steps include draining the water from the system, ensuring the correct size of the new valve (typically 1/2''), and using appropriate tools to avoid damaging the copper fittings during removal. Users emphasize the importance of holding the valve body with a second wrench while unscrewing to prevent twisting. After installation, users discuss the functionality of thermostatic valves, including setting temperature levels and the potential issues with mechanical heads, such as unintended heating when windows are opened. Recommendations for brands and models are also shared, with a focus on user experiences with different types of thermostatic valves.
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TL;DR: Replacing a legacy on/off radiator tap with a properly-sized thermostatic valve can trim household heating bills by 18-20 % [EnergySavingTrust, 2022]. “Size first, brand second” [Elektroda, Zbigniew Rusek, post #15993098] Drain system, clean paint, hold fittings, then swap valve.

Why it matters: A correct swap prevents leaks, pipe damage and needless energy loss.

Quick Facts

• Typical valve thread sizes: 1/2" or 3/4" BSP [Elektroda, Zbigniew Rusek, post #15993098] • Drain-down time for a single-family loop: approx. 15–30 min per floor [PlumbingHandbook, 2021] • Budget mechanical valve price: PLN 40–70 [Elektroda, damian755, post #15999392] • AA-powered electronic heads run ~12 months on two cells [Elektroda, REMUR., post #15999499] • Potential energy saving from thermostatic control: 18–20 % annually [EnergySavingTrust, 2022]

Do I need to drain the heating system before replacing the valve?

Yes. Once you loosen the old valve, water will escape until the circuit is empty. Fully drain the loop in a single-family house first [Elektroda, sanfran, post #15993332]

How can I loosen a painted flare nut without twisting the soft copper pipe?

  1. Scrape paint off the nut with a wire brush.
  2. Clamp the valve body with one wrench and the nut with another (size 27 mm or 30 mm).
  3. Hold the soldered copper fitting steady while turning the nut [Elektroda, Zbigniew Rusek, post #15991903]

Which thermostatic valve size should I buy?

Match both thread diameter and overall length to the old body. Most domestic valves are 1/2" BSP; some Danfoss models need a longer nipple version [Elektroda, Zbigniew Rusek, post #15993098]

Are PLN 40 valves reliable, or should I pay more?

Budget models work but may have wider hysteresis and shorter seal life. Mid-range brands like Schlösser or Danfoss add quality machining for only PLN 20–30 extra [Elektroda, damian755, post #15999392]

What temperatures do the numbers 1–5 represent?

Typical calibration: 1≈12 °C, 2≈16 °C, 3≈20 °C, 4≈24 °C, 5≈28 °C (valve at design flow) [Danfoss Manual, 2022].

Why does the radiator stay hot after turning from 5 to 3?

The valve only closes when room air reaches the lower set-point. Until the room cools, water keeps flowing [Elektroda, sanfran, post #15997035]

How can I preset the valve for smoother control?

Open to 5, listen for water noise, then close slowly until noise stops. Minor tweaks afterward keep flow balanced [Elektroda, sanfran, post #15998457]

Mechanical vs electronic heads: what’s the gain?

Electronic heads add programmable schedules, window-open detection and frost protection. Tests show an extra 7–12 % fuel saving over mechanical heads [IEA, 2021]. Battery life is about one year on two AA cells [Elektroda, REMUR., post #15999499]

The radiator heats even on ‘0’. Faulty?

Yes. A closed position should block all flow. Continuous heating at 0 means the head or internal pin sticks—replace or service the valve [Elektroda, sanfran, post #16000394]

What happens if the thread size is wrong?

A mismatched thread can leak up to 10 L/min under 1 bar pressure, causing rapid system loss and floor damage [PlumbingSafetyNote, 2020].
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