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Old Cast Iron Radiator Valve: Replacing Heads, Types, Venting Radiators Without Valves

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  • #1 13900711
    maciekchn
    Level 21  
    Hello, during the occasion, as I have drained the water from the radiators, I want to replace the heads in the valves, but they are 2 types and the question is whether I will buy them? because I don't want to unscrew and replace the whole valve.

    And another question, if I have a radiator without a valve, how to vent it?
    CO gravitational Old Cast Iron Radiator Valve: Replacing Heads, Types, Venting Radiators Without Valves Old Cast Iron Radiator Valve: Replacing Heads, Types, Venting Radiators Without Valves Old Cast Iron Radiator Valve: Replacing Heads, Types, Venting Radiators Without Valves
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  • #2 13900762
    kot mirmur
    Level 33  
    Loosen the screw connection connecting the radiator to the valve.
  • #3 13900785
    Zbigniew Rusek
    Level 38  
    I'm afraid that there may be a big problem with buying heads for these valves (unless at TOMEX marketplaces - if in Krakow). I see 2 different heads in the picture. One of them can be up to 50 years old (very old model) - the other - certainly 30 years old. I would replace the entire valve. The replacement is simple - you only need to select the size of the valve (the picture shows that these are large diameters - the one on the left picture is probably 1'', on the right it looks like 3/4'' - you need to check it - the valve is always stamped dimension). Gravitational heating requires large cross-sections of pipes and valves.
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  • #4 13900839
    maciekchn
    Level 21  
    but I'm afraid that if I move this valve, there will be other threads or cus and pale ass :(
    and what about venting it without a shut off valve?
  • #5 13900961
    tg20
    Level 16  
    Air is vented automatically thanks to proper pipe slopes (between the riser and the radiator).
  • #6 13905311
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    maciekchn wrote:
    but I'm afraid that if I move this valve, there will be other threads or cus and pale ass

    You take the new valve in your hand and try it on where the old one was. You will need additional elements such as nipples (maybe reducing ones), muffs or reducers. Maybe just an "extension" with the same thread is enough - different lengths are available every 1 cm. There should be so-called black, and if smaller dimensions (lengths) of these elements are required, brass ones must be used.
    You twist it "dry" to match the dimensions and thread sizes, and if everything is OK, you mount it on tow and paste. A valve with a half union makes it easy to assemble.
    Here I would recommend valves, e.g. herz 3/4 "or 1" with increased flow. In addition, any M30 (M28)x1.5 head.
    A challenge for the inexperienced in this matter can be just unscrewing these threaded connections. Maybe it's cheaper and better to hire a professional?
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  • #7 13905574
    saskia
    Level 39  
    What is the reason for replacing the heads?
    If they leak, just clean them of paint and replace the seals.
    Just ordinary valve maintenance, why go to the expense and "turn the porches for the worse". :-)
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  • #8 13905928
    Zbigniew Rusek
    Level 38  
    saskia wrote:
    What is the reason for replacing the heads?
    If they leak, just clean them of paint and replace the seals.
    Just ordinary valve maintenance, why go to the expense and "turn the porches for the worse". :-)
    These old-style valves tend to leak when you turn them because the gland packing wears off very easily (so they should hardly be used for temperature control). The repair is trivial - unscrew the gland, remove the used gasket, put on a new one (if there is none, it's a string made of tow, saturated with thread paste or tovot), push in, tighten the gland. New types of valves (those for thermostatic heads) almost never leak.
  • #9 13907144
    maciekchn
    Level 21  
    They leak, and I don't know whether to fix it or replace it, I don't use them at all, only when I vent them 1-2 times a year
  • #10 13908364
    saskia
    Level 39  
    If it's gravitational CO, then what kind of fungus do you vent the radiators for.
    If they actually air, it means that something is wrong in the installation, so remove the cause of the air.
  • #11 13912279
    tg20
    Level 16  
    The paint on the unions is intact, so how did you bleed it?
  • #12 13940147
    maciekchn
    Level 21  
    in the ones that I have, I have vent valves at the back, I screwed the heads and vented them and you move the heads a few times and it leaks, already dismantled, and to dismantle it, you have to remove the radiator, for now I have a problem with the purchase, they do not have such a length anywhere.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around replacing heads on old cast iron radiator valves and venting radiators without valves. Users express concerns about sourcing compatible valve heads, with one suggesting that the heads may be outdated and recommending a complete valve replacement instead. The importance of checking valve sizes and ensuring proper installation is emphasized, along with the potential need for additional components like nipples and reducers. Venting radiators without shut-off valves can be achieved through proper pipe slopes, while maintenance of old valves is discussed, highlighting issues like leaks due to worn gland packing. Users also share experiences with venting and the challenges of purchasing the correct parts.
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