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Karlik DWP-8 Roller Blind Control: Choosing a Radio Controller for 10 Simultaneous Blinds

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  • #1 16194621
    rafipl
    Level 18  
    Hello. There are about 10 external roller blinds in the house, each with a Karlik DWP-8 controller http://sklepkarlik.pl/produkt,karlik-deco,dwp8-przycisk-zaluzjowy,kolor-bialy.50. Wires from these controllers come to the switchgear, I served on one of them phase and the effect was as intended - the blind closes. Now I want to be able to easily control all blinds simultaneously from the remote control. I understand that I connect all cables responsible for raising blinds with each other and similarly with cables responsible for lowering blinds. Only then which radio controller should I use for the above situation?
    Does it have to be any specific controller to withstand the releasing of the phase on 10 blinds at the same time? Are such roller shutter motors drawing little power and no worries?
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  • #3 16195172
    rafipl
    Level 18  
    Why is it not allowed to power all blinds at once?
  • #4 16195198
    DIRO
    Level 2  
    Welcome.
    Is it better to use proxima SR1 drivers? A very simple solution ...

    Added after 6 [minutes]:

    rafipl wrote:
    Why is it not allowed to power all blinds at once?




    And what do you mean?
  • #5 16195238
    STINGER
    Level 15  
    rafipl, your way wrote, and you want to do through a regular shutter switch and connect everything at once.

    I think that a colleague in one post was not about constant power supply but about switching on roller blinds, i.e. releasing voltage on the motor, giving the top or bottom.

    Each roller blind should be independently controlled, because closing one would close all of them.
    As you have all the blinds brought to the switchboard, it can also be something like this:

    http://www.zamel.pl/pl,68,381,sterownik_rolet_srm10.html


    PS: One more thing, do these blinds have a built-in radio controller or not?
    Because if you do not have to have a radio controller + remote control for it.
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  • #6 16195265
    DIRO
    Level 2  
    The fact I read the post wrongly but from what you really want to get it I think such an idea .... http: //www.elmes.pl/pl/produkty/sterownik-do-szesciu-rolet
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  • #7 16195356
    rafipl
    Level 18  
    Karlik DWP-8 Roller Blind Control: Choosing a Radio Controller for 10 Simultaneous Blinds
    Each roller blind is currently separately controlled by the above blind switches http://sklepkarlik.pl/produkt,karlik-deco,dwp8-przycisk-zaluzjowy,kolor-bialy.50 (please look at the diagram on this page below). From the description: "The connector allows connecting within two separate circuits, but prevents their simultaneous switching on".
    So I already have control of each roller blind and it works, and further cables from each of these switches pulled to the switchboard (two from each - gray and black up / down). I want to group these wires into two groups of course (closing and opening), so having 10 blinds, connect 10 wires from opening, which would result in simultaneous opening of all blinds at once after phase input. Giving a phase to 1 of 2 outputs (1 output opening and 1 output closing) would be implemented by some radio controller (opening / closing from the remote control).
  • #8 16195423
    STINGER
    Level 15  
    rafipl wrote:
    Karlik DWP-8 Roller Blind Control: Choosing a Radio Controller for 10 Simultaneous Blinds
    Each roller blind is currently separately controlled by the above blind switches http://sklepkarlik.pl/produkt,karlik-deco,dwp8-przycisk-zaluzjowy,kolor-bialy.50 (please look at the diagram on this page below). From the description: "The connector allows connecting within two separate circuits, but prevents their simultaneous switching".
    So I already have control of each roller blind and it works, and further cables from each of these switches pulled to the switchboard (two from each - gray and black up / down). I want to group these wires into two groups of course (closing and opening), so having 10 blinds, connect 10 wires from opening, which would result in simultaneous opening of all blinds at once after phase input. Giving a phase to 1 of 2 outputs (1 output opening and 1 output closing) would be implemented by some radio controller (opening / closing from the remote control).



    Yes, but this description is about the fact that you can not turn on up and down with this switch at the same time - for example, a child can play and press two keys at once, and here it is secured.
    It must have this switch because it has two separate keys, which is different when there is one up / down key.
    What we mean is that you do not connect together, because if you press the key in the kitchen up, all connected blinds with this output will open.

    You want to have a remote control and keys so it is a hybrid, so you must have a central controller such as a colleague wrote above, it is radio controlled so you have a remote control and in addition you can separately control each roller blind with the up / down switch.
    You will put this controller into the switchboard and connect everything there accordingly.
  • #9 16195449
    DIRO
    Level 2  
    don't complicate

    Added after 51 [seconds]:

    http://www.proxima.pl/oferta,48

    Added after 57 [seconds]:

    DIRO wrote:
    don't complicate

    Added after 51 [seconds]:

    http://www.proxima.pl/oferta,48


    there are simple solutions ...... proxima, elmes but the fact does not cost PLN 15 .....

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    the remote control has 99 channels - you can control how you want the weekly, hourly, daily and etc. series I have set up about a thousand of these controllers and are the best
  • #10 16195689
    rafipl
    Level 18  
    Karlik DWP-8 Roller Blind Control: Choosing a Radio Controller for 10 Simultaneous Blinds

    Elmes ST6H this driver seems to me appropriate. The only question is whether by connecting only OPEN and CLOSE cables to each output (because only those I have pulled out in the switchboard), will the controller give 230V? I mean, if we don't connect the neutral and ground terminals, will the controller feed the phase onto the blinds?
    And when you control the switch of a particular roller blind, the driver will not freak out?
  • #11 16195944
    spin
    Level 13  
    In st6h you need to have a connection (wiring) from the controller:
    1. 4 veins for each roller blind
    2. for each button at the blind 2 wires
    For this you can connect any button you want, e.g. central control or a selected group of blinds. From what I remember, probably up to 16 buttons for one controller.
    Control buttons do not go on 230VAC but are connected to the controller.
    In addition, the controller has a radio to which you can connect the remote - elmes has several to choose from.
  • #12 16196436
    rafipl
    Level 18  
    So the lime in general. I have no way of interfering with the installation ...: /
  • #13 16239001
    rafipl
    Level 18  
    spin wrote:
    In st6h you need to have a connection (wiring) from the controller:
    1. 4 veins for each roller blind
    2. for each button at the blind 2 wires
    For this you can connect any button you want, e.g. central control or a selected group of blinds. From what I remember, probably up to 16 buttons for one controller.
    Control buttons do not go on 230VAC but are connected to the controller.
    In addition, the controller has a radio to which you can connect the remote - elmes has several to choose from.


    I asked the question directly to the ELMES service, is it enough if I connect only the OPEN / CLOSE terminals. I received a positive response:

    "Yes. If everything is supplied from the same phase, it will work. The ST6H controller, through relays, feeds the phase to the roller shutter drives."

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around controlling 10 external roller blinds equipped with Karlik DWP-8 controllers using a radio controller for simultaneous operation. The user seeks advice on connecting the cables for raising and lowering the blinds and selecting an appropriate radio controller. Responses emphasize the need for a central control system rather than connecting all blinds directly, as this could lead to operational issues. Suggested solutions include using controllers like Zamel SRP01, Zamel SRM10, Proxima SR1, and Elmes ST6H, which allow for individual and simultaneous control. It is clarified that the ST6H controller can operate with only the OPEN and CLOSE terminals connected, provided all blinds are supplied from the same phase.
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