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Centralized Blinds Control: Managing 22 House Blinds with One Button - Wiring, Relays, Controllers

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  • #1 16458235
    krzysztof2164
    Level 8  
    Hello,
    I have the following question: 22 blinds are installed in the house, each cable comes out into the box in which the control button is installed, then 4x1mm2 cables are additionally routed from each button, and twisted pair cables coming from one place in this place, I would like to install the button I would like to install close or open all blinds.

    I am asking for ideas, advice and schemes on how to implement it.

    Is it necessary to use relays or controllers.
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  • #3 16458287
    krzysztof2164
    Level 8  
    And assuming that all blinds will be connected to one button without using the controller, will it work?
  • #4 16458328
    spinacz
    Level 42  
    I would never do such a control, there is no option of possible operation of a single roller blind, in addition there is contact load.
    The only reasonable option for me is to use drivers as stated in the post above.
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  • #5 16458579
    ditomek
    Level 22  
    You have a cable layout that gives you the most room for maneuver. Flush mount or din rail controllers from f & f for around PLN 80 each. Central control in this case you will do on twisted pair. The use of dedicated drivers that I wrote about does the trick completely. Nothing else is needed except switches
  • #6 16458620
    krzysztof2164
    Level 8  
    I know it but the man for whom I have to do it does not want to agree to buy drivers wants to solve it as cheap as possible
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  • #7 16458688
    spinacz
    Level 42  
    Well, otherwise it can't be solved, why do you want to pack in a swamp, do it anyhow and then you will go to it because something is not working. You have to know when to say thank you to the customer, I don't make such sales.
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  • #8 16458834
    ditomek
    Level 22  
    Paperclip wrote it very nicely.
    Do not hold on to any job because it's wrong.
    I once made a layout on transmitters. So far I had ready plates made according to my project by the company but after that I promised myself that this was the first and last time. The savings were only on the investor's side.
  • #9 16495721
    maniek171992
    Level 12  
    Paper clip is right.
    Once, as part of the savings, I made installations on ordinary relays (without a socket) with a 12 V coil. The installation was as follows, two relays in the box with a button controlling a given roller blind, all connected with a twisted pair cable (you can connect each box in series to save on the cable).
    Another two relays are separated, 12 V power supply, time relay.
    The only plus of this installation is the low cost, which is borne by a highly demanding customer.
    The downside was a lot of time spent on soldering relays, and huge problems with the service of such an installation.
    As colleagues have mentioned, the best option for you in the case of such an installation is, for example, the SRM10 roller blind controller
  • #10 16546059
    robja
    Level 15  
    For a large number of drives, I suggest a LAN driver containing drive programs (can be controlled from smartphones and switches)
    Blinds are centrally imported and can be controlled parallel to relays from switches

    Roller blind controller Ethernet / LAN
  • #11 16567875
    dzik84
    Level 17  
    ditomek wrote:
    Central control in this case you will do on twisted pair. The use of dedicated drivers that I wrote about does the trick completely.


    A colleague realizes that F&F controllers for group control inputs have 230V and twisted pair cable is allowed up to 50V
  • #12 16569358
    ditomek
    Level 22  
    For sure? I just searched the internet and the first better twisted pair cable from the popular TECHNOKABEL company is 150V and the test of such a cable was made at 700V. Unfortunately, you have to guess that this is a parameter vein-vein ....

    Moderated By Krzysztof Reszka:

    3.1.11. Posting entries that do not contain substantive content, contain harmful advice,
    Test voltage is test voltage, not work voltage. After that, the manufacturer indicates which data transfers it should use, and in this case it;
    Cables for multimedia telecommunication networks (for laying outside and in the ground)
    Further writing heresy will end with a warning.

  • #13 16569449
    dzik84
    Level 17  
    Voltage test is not operating voltage. Maybe if the cable insulation is tested at 2.5kV and it comes out ok, can I push it so much?
    For most strands, the rated operating voltage is 50, 60, 100V, but never 230/250
    Even the given technocable is 150, not 230/250
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the challenge of controlling 22 house blinds with a single button. The user seeks advice on wiring, relays, and controllers for this setup. Responses emphasize the necessity of using dedicated drivers or controllers for reliable operation, as connecting all blinds directly to one button could lead to operational issues and potential overload. Suggestions include using flush mount or DIN rail controllers from F&F, and the SRM10 roller blind controller for effective management. Some participants caution against cost-cutting measures that compromise functionality, highlighting the importance of proper installation to avoid future service difficulties. The conversation also touches on the specifications of twisted pair cables and their voltage ratings, stressing the need for appropriate components to ensure safety and performance.
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