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VW Bora 1.9 TDI 90km - Relay 53 Connection & Rear Fog Light Function: Fuses, Bulbs & Wiring

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  • #1 16288241
    ferguson6600
    Level 21  
    I have a question, whether the relay 53 in the relay box on the pedals, is connected only to the installation of front or rear fog lights. I have no light at the back, the fuse is OK, the bulb is OK, the switch after setting the fog position 12v output voltage on the gray wire, the indicator on the board is and there are no lights, probably only the relay remains.
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    #2 16288651
    Staszek49
    Level 35  
    In Bór, you probably have 1 low light, and in my opinion it will not be controlled by the "53" relay. This relay applies to me only front fog lamps, due to their significant load (2 bulbs H-3).

    In the book VW Golf IV and Bora, in the section on "electrics" "Additional 13 relays board" pos. 1 cit. ... fog lamp relay (53). According to me, this is the front lamps (110 W) and not the rear lamps (21 W). These lamps, i.e. both the front and rear fog lamps are protected with fuse No. 36.

    To be sure, check with a meter (tester) whether the bulb is receiving 12 V voltage and whether the lamp 'weight' is correct. Also examine this relay (or substitute) and check if it is receiving power.
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    #3 16288712
    strucel
    Level 35  
    You don't have a hook sometimes? I had a similar problem (in another car) and it turned out that in the socket to connect the trailer the rear fog lamp disconnecting switch damaged when the trailer was attached.
  • #4 16289083
    ferguson6600
    Level 21  
    Thanks for the info, yes I have the diagram and now I also saw that from relay 53 (on the diagram J5) only 2 gray-yellow cables come out and as if they fed only the front lights. And as for the second post, I have a hook, this kind of switch is sitting in the socket of the trailer plug? So, I conclude that the voltage for the rear light goes first to the trailer socket and then to the plug socket of the bulbs.
  • #5 16289118
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    ferguson6600 wrote:
    so I conclude that the voltage on the rear light goes first to the trailer socket and then to the plug socket of the bulbs

    Yes, but only in the 13-pin ones.
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    #6 16289155
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    You got a hook, snap at its cables
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  • #7 16289959
    ferguson6600
    Level 21  
    Today I looked under the flip of the hook socket, there sits a 7-pin socket, I connected the meter quickly and on pin 2 there is voltage after setting the switch on the fog, there probably sits a blue cable from the fog lights. Only now the question arises whether the cable to the lamp passes through the trailer socket, or goes separately and independently to the lamp socket, you know how it is, because the diagram does not show it. In total, you can undo these plastics and walk on the bundle, but how the cable is flying through the trailer socket, this is where I would focus.
  • #8 16290079
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    If the fogging is disconnected after inserting the plug into the socket it looks like this:
    VW Bora 1.9 TDI 90km - Relay 53 Connection & Rear Fog Light Function: Fuses, Bulbs & Wiring
    But this in 7-pin rarely seen.
  • #9 16290502
    ferguson6600
    Level 21  
    And here there is probably a dog buried, if there was such a socket in my place, it probably wouldn't bother me if I made a jumper of the second pin with the cable going to the car lamp. What do you think a good idea?
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    #10 16290562
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    If you do not go on a night tour with a trailer, it does not bother you that the car will shine.
  • #11 16291181
    ferguson6600
    Level 21  
    I found the fault of the lack of light in the lamp, I dismantled the hook socket and there was a fault. The original 13 pin socket was probably installed, but some macher replaced it with 7 pin. But it was a pseudo specialist, admittedly he installed a second socket but changed the colors of the cables, and left some of them cut off and not even insulated. Where from 2 pin should be blue the cable is connected some gray, and blue was loosely cut without any voltages. It was also gray and yellow loose, and I thought it was fog, so I connected this cable to pin 2 through the bulb where there is voltage fog and immediately lighted up the bulb in the lamp. To sum up, I connected these 2 cables to pin 2 and the light works as it should be for now, and in the summer if it is warm I will buy a new socket because it is already miserable, and connect again with new cables as needed. Thank you all for the hints.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the functionality of Relay 53 in the VW Bora 1.9 TDI concerning the rear fog light operation. The original poster inquires if Relay 53 is solely responsible for the front or rear fog lights, noting that the rear fog light is not functioning despite having a good fuse and bulb. Responses indicate that Relay 53 is primarily for front fog lights, while the rear fog light may be affected by issues related to the trailer socket, which can disrupt the circuit. The poster discovers that a faulty 7-pin trailer socket was improperly wired, leading to the rear fog light malfunction. After reconfiguring the connections, the rear fog light is restored to working condition. Future plans include replacing the damaged socket for a more permanent solution.
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