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Philips 42PFL4317K/12 TV: Strange Program Sorting with Cam CI+ Module and NC+

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  • #1 16332596
    Pectore
    Level 11  
    Welcome !
    I am looking for and I am looking - unfortunately a rather strange thing.
    I am currently using a decoder from nc + but I decided to go to the Cam Ci module. It's more convenient for me.
    The problem is that my TV is exactly the model: PHILIPS 42PFL4317K / 12 somehow strangely looks for programs

    That's it: it will look for 1500 programs, at the end it asks how to sort the programs, according to the digital polsat, or eg NC +
    I do, for example, according to Cyfrowy Polsat. Ok sorted. No program, eg PULS, PULS2 and probably many others. Some HUSSAIN programs and other foreign programs appear between the programs, where this is not the case in a normal decoder.

    But> on the list I have given:
    1. Cyfrowy Polsat
    2. Number
    3. N HD

    What's strange because "Cyfra" is gone and "N HD" is not anymore.

    In my opinion, here the manufacturer has abandoned the updates of this TV and the TV downloads a list of programs from 2014, I think. I have no idea.
    How does it work? On what basis does the TV sort these programs? Does the manufacturer have to update it on a regular basis? If he does not do it?
    Fact, TV bought in Germany, but nevertheless I choose POLAND, etc., etc., it should not matter.
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  • #2 16332680
    LeDy
    Level 43  
    The producer does not have to be anything, let alone buy our needs.
    Reconcile with this or buy with smarter software or a different company. Philips unfortunately writes software not from this planet. I would like them .....
  • #3 16332725
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #4 16332745
    Pectore
    Level 11  
    And tell me which television is best to buy? Someone told me of Sony. A np Samsung? Cramp, it should not matter where you buy it> P
    The point is, for example, that the TV set after 2 years did not go to the basket, because np modul nie will not work; /

    Operator nc +? Of course, this service has, but so what if the list of programs is a catastrophe, we do not know where.
  • #5 16332760
    Anonymous
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  • #6 16332777
    Pectore
    Level 11  
    But this whole list of programs depends on whether the manufacturer will release the appropriate updates anyway?
    Because I wonder if it is worth going to this module. If it's going to depend on the producer, what will the program list look like? Well, it's a bad thing.
    There is no problem with the decoder. The list is what it is. As the new program will appear, the decoder will update. And here is the grace or the grace of the TV's producer. It is obvious that after a year from the purchase, the producer will withdraw at all from the update and what then, again the new TV?

    Why is not it somehow automatically synchronized by this module? Do not look, for example, only for such programs, which actually has nc +?
    Why should you wait for some updates that will be released by the TV producer? `

    Probably it will be better to stay at the decoder. Too much west, and certainly a TV exchange for a better polka. Because I probably will not do anything with him anymore.
  • #7 16332839
    maurycy123
    Conditionally unlocked
    And what does the TV manufacturer have to do with the channel list? I have a Samsung with CI + and NC +.
    If I do a search for it, it saves the channels one by one as it finds. I also have my list of channels arranged as suits me. Unfortunately, from time to time NC + "makes me happy" by updating the list. This can not be blocked. The CI + module is responsible for updating.
  • #8 16332854
    Pectore
    Level 11  
    I'm not sure because the TV searches for programs and arranges them in its own way, even without this module. It is only probably when inserting the TV module that these coded programs are made available
    I'm not a specialist, that's why I'm asking. Because the TV sets how to put programs, not a module.

    For me it looks like that I choose a sorting of digital polsat and so between the channels I have some hussainy.i france tv
  • #9 16332877
    maurycy123
    Conditionally unlocked
    Pectore wrote:
    I'm not sure because the TV searches for programs and arranges them in its own way, even without this module.
    Even with the module he will arrange it. The update from NC + simply has to come. Now think about it. The TV producer would have to have lists of all operators in all countries where a given TV model is available. And update them if any list changes. What do you think. How often would he have to update them? Weekly? Is it once a day? And what is cable TV yet? Is the TV producer responsible too?

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Pectore wrote:
    Because the TV sets how to put programs, not a module.
    Because the TV "flies" in turn with frequencies, vertical and horizontal polarization, low and high band. There is no module required to search for available programs from a given satellite.
  • #10 16332975
    Anonymous
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  • #11 16333027
    Pectore
    Level 11  
    So that at the time just such a modul can be forgiven. Too much of this west.
    The decoder will be a better solution after all.

    But I do not understand here the statement "must come with a nc + update" in which it will help? Will update the channel list? :P I do not know.

    I am dark in this matter.
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  • #12 16333106
    maurycy123
    Conditionally unlocked
    mihal2002 wrote:
    It is responsible for the software and the contract with pay TV operators.
    What contract? What software? So how, for example, NC + will change the list of channels, will the TV producer change the software?

    Pectore wrote:
    But I do not understand here the statement "must come with a nc + update" in which it will help? Will update the channel list?
    And am I writing in some incomprehensible language?
    maurycy123 wrote:
    I also have my list of channels arranged as suits me. Unfortunately, from time to time NC + "makes me happy" by updating the list.
    maurycy123 wrote:
    The CI + module is responsible for updating.
    As you will have a module inserted in the TV, the list will itself sort itself in the order that NC + has. Only this can take a while.
  • #13 16333123
    Pectore
    Level 11  
    Well, it's that way. If the CAM module affects the programs and what these programs are there, that's okay. Because, like saying without a CAM module, for example, the TV does not search for PULS, PULS2 and who else knows what programs.
  • #14 16333129
    VooVoo
    Level 34  
    Some TVs do well with CI modules and downloading the operator list, others can not handle it and channels are channeled according to the manufacturer's secret knowledge. This applies to both satellite and cable operators. Yesterday I had a case that the older Sony had channels arranged from the cap, and the newer LG after factory settings took the operator list without problems. As of today, it is a lottery, will this tv work properly with this module.
  • #15 16333225
    maurycy123
    Conditionally unlocked
    VooVoo wrote:
    As of today, it is a lottery, will this tv work properly with this module.
    In my Samsung, after entering the CI + module, the NC + operator appears in the search. However, it searches everything as it goes. Only after some time it sucks the appropriate list.
  • #16 16333288
    Anonymous
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  • #17 16336365
    Pectore
    Level 11  
    So, I did not know anything :P
    Only that much too much of the west with this funny modul. 200 zlotys but nothing interesting.

    I do not know, maybe it works in some cases. A small decoder will probably be a better choice. List of programs then it is not a problem.
    Because I am more in the direction of television without a contract.

    Say maybe it is better to buy a decoder in nc + for PLN 149 or is it better to not seek somewhere on the Allegro etc.? because they talk about these decoders differently. Only if I would choose a different manufacturer probably do not know how it looked. Will then send the card or buy the cam module to the decoder.
  • #18 16336497
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around issues faced by users of the Philips 42PFL4317K/12 TV when using a CAM CI+ module with the NC+ decoder. Users report problems with program sorting, where the TV fails to display certain channels like PULS and PULS2, and instead shows irrelevant foreign channels. Concerns are raised about the lack of software updates from Philips, leading to outdated channel lists. Participants debate the effectiveness of different brands, suggesting alternatives like LG and Samsung, while expressing frustration over the reliance on manufacturer updates for channel sorting. The consensus leans towards using a dedicated decoder instead of the CAM module for better channel management.
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