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Pioneer VSX-918: Can STK442-110/130 Substitute PAC014A? Layout Modifications & Sources

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  • #1 16357558
    zwirek1
    Level 30  
    Hello.
    I am asking for a hint, will the above-mentioned STK442-110 / 130 system work for PAC014A?
    Like so, is there any layout modification needed?
    The applications themselves are very similar to each other and the price is much lower for the STK442 chip.
    I am asking for a hint, where can I get some STK442 tips?
    Thanks in advance for the hints.
    Kisses
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    #2 16360257
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    They are definitely not interchangeable systems. According to the reports of those who tried to insert alternately, the system was damaged after a few minutes.

    Please analyze the power supply method in your target application:
    - the voltage part of the power amplifier is supplied with a stabilized and higher voltage than the current stage.
    The difference is also with the application for pin 5-6 and 6-7. The original circuit appears to have at least one emitter resistor inside for the final stage.
    Theoretically, STK systems can be adapted to work in this configuration, but will the workload be adequate to the savings?
    And usually PAC 014A will get a guarantee, even 12 months, for correct operation, in the case of cheap STK, unfortunately not.

    Pioneer VSX-918: Can STK442-110/130 Substitute PAC014A? Layout Modifications & Sources Pioneer VSX-918: Can STK442-110/130 Substitute PAC014A? Layout Modifications & Sources Pioneer VSX-918: Can STK442-110/130 Substitute PAC014A? Layout Modifications & Sources
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  • #3 16360666
    zwirek1
    Level 30  
    Hello
    Thanks for the answers.
    I tried to repair the old hybrid, but the signal to the executive transistors was already wrong from the op-amp placed inside.
    No emitter resistor inside.
    I give a photo of what it looks like inside to compare it with the stk application.
    Kisses
  • #4 16361524
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    It can be seen that the system is implemented in a conventional embodiment of the final complementary stage. However, the designer somehow had to deal with the effective stabilization of the quiescent current, stabilization of the output transistors, without a single negative feedback resistor. The system has much better parameters than the STK442-110 / STK442-130, at least the parameters declared in the characteristics of the receivers in which it is mounted are better. The design has certainly been carefully thought out and developed.

    The voltage block is powered from a stabilized power source, so it is unlikely that it will damage the integrated structure of the operational amplifier without damaging the stabilizer (theoretical assumption, of course, because we do not know the complete schematic of the entire hybrid amplifier). Did his colleague check all the transistor structures, including the control one?
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  • #5 16361589
    zwirek1
    Level 30  
    Just out of curiosity, I will add that I measured the rest of the elements.
    And the two elements between the power transistors, it's hard to tell what it is after the measurements, while the transistor and diode on the left and right side of the operational amplifier are measurable and functional.
    I'm looking for the original. End of combining.
    Thanks again.
    Kisses
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    #6 16361864
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    It is therefore necessary to dynamically check the power supply of the system before installing a new one.
  • #7 16361919
    zwirek1
    Level 30  
    I am ordering the original
    Kisses

Topic summary

The discussion centers on the compatibility of the STK442-110/130 systems as substitutes for the PAC014A in audio applications. It is concluded that these systems are not interchangeable, as attempts to use them have resulted in damage. Key differences include power supply requirements and circuit design, particularly concerning the stabilization of quiescent current and output transistors. Users are advised to verify the power supply before installation and consider the reliability of the PAC014A, which typically comes with a warranty, unlike the cheaper STK options. The original PAC014A is ultimately recommended for use.
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