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Fuel Dispenser Connection and Starting Guide: Engine Running but Abacus Not Working

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  • #1 16381429
    phupawelkulesza
    Level 9  
    Hello!
    I have a problem with connecting and starting the fuel dispenser. The engine works but the abacus does not. Please help.
    Fuel Dispenser Connection and Starting Guide: Engine Running but Abacus Not Working Fuel Dispenser Connection and Starting Guide: Engine Running but Abacus Not Working Fuel Dispenser Connection and Starting Guide: Engine Running but Abacus Not Working Fuel Dispenser Connection and Starting Guide: Engine Running but Abacus Not Working Fuel Dispenser Connection and Starting Guide: Engine Running but Abacus Not Working Fuel Dispenser Connection and Starting Guide: Engine Running but Abacus Not Working
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  • #2 16381498
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    Are you pumping fuel or dry?
  • #3 16381590
    phupawelkulesza
    Level 9  
    Pumps dry. I connected the power hoses to the box on the left. The dispenser works even with the gun on the set. There are thin, unconnected cables in the box on the right, I wonder what the 230 V current should not be there? (Meter backlight, meter)?
  • #4 16381946
    BILGO
    Level 38  
    phupawelkulesza wrote:
    Pumps dry.

    What is the abacus to count if nothing flows?
    phupawelkulesza wrote:
    I wonder what the 230V current should not be connected there by any chance? (meter backlight, meter)?

    Of course, for logic, you need external control as in distributors ...
    Read the directory note to explain more
  • #5 16383005
    phupawelkulesza
    Level 9  
    The distributor should reset before refueling. Fuel connected and the effect is the same. The counter is not working.
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  • #6 16385591
    PATAFIAN_PATAFIAN
    Conditionally unlocked
    phupawelkulesza wrote:
    Fuel connected and the effect is the same.

    Fuel is pumping?
    Check fuses.
    After connecting, all the diodes are lit (there is no shortage of voltage)?
  • #7 16385640
    phupawelkulesza
    Level 9  
    Only the pump works. The cables were torn after removal from the petrol station and I probably made a mistake. The problem is with proper connection. Is there anyone in Masovian or Podlasie who knows how to connect? I'll bring the distributor. Please message on prv.
  • #8 17402841
    _rzeton
    Level 2  
    This distributor needs an external pump motor contactor and thermic. After lifting the gun, it gives the phase that controls the contactor in the switchgear, from where the power to the motor comes.
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  • #9 17943081
    Aros12
    Level 1  
    Hello. Has anyone already solved the connection problem?
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  • #10 18000413
    mmin
    Level 11  
    Hello, did you manage to connect the distributor? I have a similar problem
    in the tin, apart from the power supply of the 1in1, 1v1, 1u1 engine, I don't really know what they are on the other side of
  • #13 20523386
    koniu2020
    Level 2  
    Hello,
    I have a similar problem with our distributor, only ours has been working properly for about 10 years and now there is a problem, namely when refueling, the distributor stops refueling and after opening this, i.e. the cabinet, the 12V indicator flashes.
    After disconnecting it from the power supply and reconnecting it, the distributor normally sets the price and works correctly.
    In the last 2-3 weeks, this situation is repeated more and more often and the distributor will fill up once with 800-900 and other times only 20, 15 or even 2 liters ...
    I noticed that after a longer disconnection from the power supply, it works longer, but after several attempts, it refuels less and less and disconnects more and more often ...
    Please help or give me some pointers on what to look for.
  • #14 20523985
    pal-dys
    Level 14  
    Is there an error in the unit price on the meter?

    Added after 18 [minutes]:

    How many hoses are on the dispenser?

    Added after 6 [minutes]:

    It's about an error when the distributor stops working.
  • #15 20524523
    koniu2020
    Level 2  
    There is only one snake.
    No error pops up, just stops and the 12v light flashes ...
    I added photos Fuel Dispenser Connection and Starting Guide: Engine Running but Abacus Not Working Fuel Dispenser Connection and Starting Guide: Engine Running but Abacus Not Working Fuel Dispenser Connection and Starting Guide: Engine Running but Abacus Not Working
  • #16 20525234
    pal-dys
    Level 14  
    Middle picture, pull out the plug on the top right side of G2 after turning off the power. Turn on and see if the LED flashes. there it is connected; the first 2 wires from the left are the gun microswitch and then the pulse transducer.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    There should be 12V on pins 3 and 4

    Added after 8 [minutes]:

    Or disconnect the 4th wire from the plug and see how the diode responds.
  • #17 20525367
    BANANvanDYK
    Level 42  
    @koniu2020 After so many years (after the number it comes out that 1996) you can be sure that the electrolytic capacitors have completely dried up giving an unstable power supply. But it's nice that there is still a service technician who knows these machines. I would start with the power supplies. Especially if the distributor was turned on non-stop.
  • #18 20525590
    pal-dys
    Level 14  
    For now, I would check the 12V voltage because there is good access. You are right about the power supply but it is difficult to access and it is best to check it on the table. 12V powers the pulse converter, which after such a time has the right to fail.
  • #19 20527476
    pal-dys
    Level 14  
    We are waiting for a response from the distributor's owner.
  • #20 20579264
    mmin
    Level 11  
    In my distributor with the Italian Nuovo Pignone pump (semicircular pump connected with the motor and fed from the top)
    I connected in the first box from the left, 3 phases on the left side (continuous power supply - in others through a contactor) and the upper right side (W1) control (I have a remote control relay) on the lower ones, from what I remember, the current appears after removing the gun - to the bulb or contactor but this must be checked.
    If the dispenser is from fuel, it is probably in automatic - computer mode, the cash register allows you to start it. you need a remote control with three buttons for the rs232 connector and reprogramming to manual control description, manual on the internet new remote control ok100 PLN
  • #21 20580187
    pal-dys
    Level 14  
    W1 electronics power supply. W2 lighting. Q pump contactor control output.

    Added after 5 [minutes]:

    In the picture above there is a price selector and an auto-manual switch below it. Manual runs without a cash register system.
  • #22 20580796
    mmin
    Level 11  
    Good morning, I saw that the one shown here is manually controlled, but I left the phone number visible in this thread and there were a few questions on the phone. Hence the description of the distributor set with the remote control. Regards

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a fuel dispenser where the engine operates, but the abacus (meter) does not function. Initial inquiries focus on whether the fuel is being pumped or if the system is dry. The user indicates that the dispenser works with the gun set, but there are unconnected cables in the control box, raising concerns about proper electrical connections. Responses suggest checking fuses, ensuring proper wiring, and verifying the presence of 12V power to the pulse converter. Some users mention the need for an external pump motor contactor and thermic protection. Additional issues arise with another user's dispenser, which intermittently stops refueling, indicating potential power supply or capacitor failures. The conversation highlights the importance of correct wiring and power supply checks for resolving these issues.
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