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Iveco Daily 2005 3.0 HPI E4 - The CR pump does not supply fuel.

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  • #1 16559284
    MechAM
    Level 1  
    Hello! I have a problem with Iveco daily. The car was bought with damaged injectors (started from a cake). Someone was rummaging earlier because two injectors were from 2.3 and two original from 3.0. I removed and took to repair along with the pump cr. Two injectors were purchased completely new. After assembling the whole, it turns out that the pump does not give any fuel at all. After running on the plaque displays error camshaft sensor and after some time sensor error in cr. The electric pump works and pumps fuel up to max 12bar. Everything checked out. I will add that after unscrewing the pressure regulator in the pump and turning the key, no fuel leaks from the place of the regulator (I have no idea if it should or not, the buzzer regulator makes a sound). I have no idea where the problem may be. please help or at least tips.
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  • #2 16674677
    crx4
    Level 11  
    Hello!
    I would check the shaft position sensor. A friend had a sensor that was replaced with a new replacement and the pump did not supply fuel after replacing the original with a propeller (only 2.3 in ducato)
    And I have such a question whether in Iveco 2004 2.3 116km electric pump works after turning the key all the time, while the engine is working?
    Regards!
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  • #3 16674925
    Megawe
    Level 34  
    The fuel dose regulator in this toilet pump CP3, when it gets voltage (buzzing), it lowers the high pressure when the electrical plug is disconnected from it, the pump gives maximum pressure on the strip. After pulling out the dose regulator, fuel should flow out of the opening under the pressure of the pump in the tank. At 12 atm of power, even after unscrewing the hose on the injector fuel should flow out.
  • #4 16708644
    Dawid W
    Level 15  
    According to what I orientate, the pump in the fuel tank pumps from 4.4-5.8 before the filter and after the 3.5-5 filter
    In this injection system, the pressure regulator
    placed in front of the high pressure pump, regulates
    fuel flow required for the low pressure system.
    Then the high pressure pump feeds correctly
    fuel rail.
    Such a solution, increasing the pressure only necessary
    fuel quantity, improves energy efficiency and reduces
    fuel overheating in the system. Bleed valve
    mounted on the high pressure pump performs the function
    pressure maintenance, at the pressure regulator inlet, constant
    5 bar, regardless of filter flow capacity
    fuel and system behind the filter. Operation of the bleed valve
    it increases the fuel flow in the circuit
    cooling the high pressure pump.
    12 bar is way too much
  • #5 16718069
    stanisławpiotr
    Level 32  
    It is very likely that the reason is simple. If rotation sensor errors occur, check the crankshaft clearance. Use a wheel bucket or rod to push the pulley away from the front of the engine and then to the other side. If the crankshaft moves, it means that the bushes at the rear (thrust) are worn, causing the flywheel to move away from the sensor. In this engine, this sensor is mounted on the right side of the engine receiving impulses from the side of the wheel and not from its circumference. This causes that if a too large gap occurs, a sensor error occurs and the engine does not start. I apologize for my oversight this defect occurs in the older engine model and not in the HPI E4.
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  • #6 16719038
    Dawid W
    Level 15  
    With these clearances on the retaining bushes, it seems to me too much. Alternatively, the shaft sensor can be detached (it will ignite without it), but not the other way round. Look through the oil filler cap whether the timing guides do not diverge, a fairly common case when the oil level is low - although then there should be an error, an inconsistent signal from the above sensors or something like that.
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  • #7 16719080
    stanisławpiotr
    Level 32  
    Mr. Dawid W, it's difficult to understand what you mean by your speech. What I have described many times was a problem in starting the engine. It is certain that the Iveco Daily car will not ignite without the impulses from the flywheel, but if there are no pulses from the timing wheel then the engine will work unevenly, it may weaken because it will not be possible to determine the correct injection angle. Buddy "MechAM" enter what value in the diagnostics the pressure sensor on the strip at the standstill and when the engine is running shows. If the pressure shows you at a standstill, the high pressure sensor or its wiring may be damaged. This can also be the reason for a difficult start. One more request write if the pressure regulating valve is screwed on two or three screws. Buddy "MechAM" in the attachment is the fuel system for this engine if it is a system on the pump cp3 or fuel control valve screwed on three screws.
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  • #8 16722590
    Dawid W
    Level 15  
    I don't quite know what is unclear to you, Mr. Stanisław Piotr, but I will try to explain something.
    The car will not fire on only one crankshaft sensor because EDC does not know where it is which piston. It is different if we have a sensor connected to the valve. On the suction roller in a certain place we have "two squares" cut out and the ECU may not be the first time but it will allow the car to start. Not as fast as on two sensors but it will fire, it is due to the fact that the controller can give fuel as the piston will be in the DMP, until it finally "hits" and then it will go according to the map.
    Iveco Daily 2005 3.0 HPI E4 - The CR pump does not supply fuel.
  • #9 16724650
    stanisławpiotr
    Level 32  
    And here you are mistaken "The car will not fire on only one crankshaft sensor because EDC does not know where it is which piston." .It is notches or boring on the impulse wheel on the crankshaft that allow the controller to detect the GPZ of the first piston the other is determined by counting pulses from the marker. They divide the circle into many parts in which one field is empty or another point is arranged. And the information on the camshaft pulses (phase sensor) allows you to determine the advance angle. Below, info from the engine in question.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a fuel supply issue in a 2005 Iveco Daily 3.0 HPI E4, where the user reports that after replacing damaged injectors and the CR pump, the pump fails to deliver fuel. Various responses suggest checking the shaft position sensor, crankshaft clearance, and the fuel dose regulator. It is noted that the electric pump operates correctly, but no fuel flows from the pressure regulator. Additionally, the importance of the crankshaft and camshaft sensors in engine operation is emphasized, with suggestions to inspect the timing guides and ensure proper sensor function to resolve the starting issue.
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