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Optimal Heater for DIY Oven: Achieving 400 Degrees with Amica 1300W & Suitable Thermostat

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  • #1 16407558
    michallodz
    Level 17  
    Good morning,
    I wanted to make such a makeshift 'oven' but I would like the temperature in it to reach as much as 400 degrees - whether such an ordinary heater, e.g. http://allegro.pl/grzalka-dolna-piekarnika-kuchni-amica-1300w-i6751975426.html maybe reach this temperature? Nowhere did I find information next to the heaters, whether on allegro or in industry stores with maximum temperature. Does this mean that if I connect it without a thermostat, it will heat up until it melts? :D
    For this heater I would like such a simplest thermostat - http://newlite.pl.bossgoo.com/oven-parts/adju...al-thermostat-bimetallic-sensor-11986100.html although I haven't seen with a range up to 400st so it will probably end with such: http://elektrodom.com/pl/p/Termostat-uniwers.-temp-0-400-st-C/3062
    Will play everything or do I have to look for some other heater?
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  • #2 16407598
    Xantix
    Level 41  
    michallodz wrote:
    Nowhere did I find information next to the heaters, whether on allegro or in industry stores with maximum temperature.

    Because basically the maximum temperature of the heater is the melting or decomposition / oxidation temperature of the material the heater is made of. The value of the temperature that the heater reaches depends on the relationship between the power supplied by the heater and the received by the environment.
    michallodz wrote:
    . Does this mean that if I connect it without a thermostat, it will heat up until it melts? :D

    Not completely. It will heat to the temperature at which the balance between the heat emitted by the heater and the power supplied to it will be established. It depends on the heat collection efficiency how high the temperature will be. The worse the heater will be cooled (e.g. weak air movement, etc.), the more it will warm up. Indeed, in extreme cases the temperature may rise so that the heater will burn.
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  • #3 16407635
    michallodz
    Level 17  
    And will such a heater be able to warm up to 400 degrees without burning?
  • #4 16414878
    michallodz
    Level 17  
    Someone will help? I don't want to burn my oven as part of testing :D
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  • #5 16414923
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    Does this heater in the oven glow or stay dark, and if it glow in a dark cherry color or is it red? The color of dark cherry corresponds to a temperature of approx. 650-700 ° C and red approx. 800-850 ° C
    Microwave heaters with hot air glow red, i.e. they withstand 800 ° C. In my microwave oven such a heater burned out after 12 years of work.
  • #6 16416488
    michallodz
    Level 17  
    As the heaters heat up, they glow with a reddish color.
    As for the thermostat, will it be better with a capillary or bimetallic? With the capillary up to 400st I saw on sale but bimetallic probably not - but maybe I'm looking wrong?
  • #7 16417441
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    I didn't ask before - you are building an "oven" at 400 ° C or do you want to raise the temperature in your own? If the latter, make sure it has some plastic elements and that they will not flow, because everything will be hotter, not just the cooking compartment.
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  • #8 16423226
    michallodz
    Level 17  
    Rather, I will build because mine is too small anyway :)
  • #10 16425015
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    The author of the topic needs 400 ° C and not three times more.
    He'll build a stove for 1/5 - 1/4 of your price :)
  • #11 16425161
    nares
    Home appliances specialist
    michallodz wrote:
    Rather, I will build because mine is too small anyway

    Exactly. Maybe a colleague would specify what size (volume) the furnace is to be designed for? If larger than a normal oven, then one suggested heater will definitely not fulfill its role, even in an ordinary oven. It would be necessary to use several such heaters, depending on the volume.
  • #12 16426012
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    nares wrote:
    It would be necessary to use several such heaters, depending on the volume.
    The necessary minimum power of the heaters depends not only on the volume of the furnace and its charge but also on the thermal insulation and the expected heating time to 400 ° C
    I agree that one 2-3 kW heater is not enough to heat a 100 dcm? stove in a reasonable amount of time.
  • #13 16642484
    michallodz
    Level 17  
    Forgive me for being so late but for life :D
    The furnace is to be about 40x40x30cm or about 50l and I didn't even plan to do the insulation, but this is not a closed topic :)
  • #14 16642548
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    michallodz wrote:
    The furnace is to be about 40x40x30cm or about 50l
    What is your heating time to 400 ° C?
    Even an ordinary oven has insulation in the form of an air layer between two sheets. Without insulation, there will be massive energy losses.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using an Amica 1300W heater to construct a DIY oven capable of reaching temperatures of 400 degrees Celsius. Participants highlight that the maximum temperature a heater can achieve is influenced by its material properties and the efficiency of heat dissipation. Concerns are raised about the heater potentially burning out if not properly managed. The conversation also touches on the choice of thermostat, debating between bimetallic and capillary types, with a focus on their temperature ranges. The importance of insulation in the oven design is emphasized, as it significantly affects heating efficiency and energy loss. The dimensions of the proposed oven (approximately 40x40x30 cm) are discussed, with suggestions that multiple heaters may be necessary for adequate heating.
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