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Radio AGC-0071RF: Display Contrast Fades Over Time, HA13173AH Overheating & Connection Fixes

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  • #1 16418490
    Qurak
    Level 17  
    Hello.

    A friend brought me a radio as in the subject with the following problem: after a dozen or so minutes (sometimes up to half an hour) from turning on, the display stops showing the content. After such a description, I expected that it could be caused by an increase in temperature and, consequently, loss or deterioration of connections. Here's what I've said and done so far:
    1. I start the radio on the table without a CD drive connected and I keep it in the code entry state (4 zeros on the display)
    2. After about a minute, some columns (pixel width) of the display begin to fade (contrast deteriorates)
    3. Over time, more and more columns fade until after some time the entire display stops being legible
    4. Radio with 12V power supply consumes almost 900mA of current
    5. The HA13173AH system heats up very strongly even with a screwed heat sink
    6. I have improved February connectors between the main board and the front panel board
    7. I led to the disappearance of the content from the display and the entire interior of the radio and radiators cooled with the help of fans - unfortunately the display did not return to the correct display.
    8. The heating system is a universal voltage stabilizer for Car Audio applications. I measured the output voltages at its terminals and are as follows: Foot 4 (8.24V), Foot 6 (7.87V), Foot 7 (3.24V), Foot 10 (8.28V), Foot 12 (11.39V) and Foot 14 (5.68V). While all voltages are lower than the catalog voltage by several hundredths of a volt, I am concerned about the voltage on the foot 14, which should be 5V and is almost 5.7V.

    Unfortunately, I do not have a diagram to determine whether an overvoltage of 5V can pose a threat to radio electronics. Maybe one of my colleagues could measure the tensions in a good copy of the radio and give me values. Can such a display symptom be caused by damage to the LCD module itself? I am asking colleagues who encountered similar damages for a hint whether the repair is possible at all.

    I count on help
    best regards
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  • #2 16418870
    tolo
    Level 35  
    In my opinion tensions are fine. Is this a Nissan Qashqai radio?
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  • #3 16419088
    Qurak
    Level 17  
    Hello
    Thanks for showing interest

    The car is a Nissan Note

    I clung to this voltage on foot 14 because in the system documentation this output is described as "5.0 V output for microcontroller". I don't have a radio scheme and I don't know if 5V powered systems feel good at 5.7V.
    But that's just my guess.

    What do you think colleagues about the current consumed by this radio? Is 10W power "at rest" not too much?

    It would help to measure voltage and current in a functional device of this type.

    best regards
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  • #4 16419223
    LWD11
    Level 31  
    This idle consumption is too high. I have AGC-1220RF on the table and the power drops to zero when idle, 1.1A consumption on a fired radio. The stabilizer is different.
  • #5 16419292
    Qurak
    Level 17  
    thank you for the information
    At rest, I wrote in quotation marks because I meant the code entry mode :) , well, I said it wrong, but at least now I know that the radio can take about 1A and it is normal.
    I hope that someone will be able to give me voltage on the stabilizer system, and if they are correct, I think the fault will be in the LCD module itself.
  • #6 16420266
    tolo
    Level 35  
    I have such a radio but for part, the LCD module is like new, so if a friend is interested, I invite you to PW.
  • #7 16427673
    Qurak
    Level 17  
    Hello

    Two more ideas came to my mind, namely, I will supply the 5V line with the correct voltage and check if the effect will continue to appear and if that does not explain, I will turn on the radio for half an hour without the LCD module connected and then connect the module. If it goes wrong right away, I exclude the LCD module and if it is good and the effect starts to appear slowly as it is now, then it will be rather certain that the fault lies with the LCD module.

    So I powered the radio without the LCD module for an hour. After connecting the LCD, there was very poor contrast - the conclusion is not the fault of the LCD module. However, I decided to desolder the foot 14 of the HA13173AH system (+ 5V output) and power the electronics connected there by 7805. Unfortunately, after such a procedure the radio tries to start and then turns off and tries again to start again and again. The unconnected foot 14 at that time was almost 7.5V - a little too much for a stabilized 5V output! Note HA13173AH provides the resistance of the stabilizer dividers - from what I looked at, between foot 14 and ground should be 52kohm (37 kohm + 15 kohm). Between soldering foot 14 and ground I have about 170 kohm, which is far too much.
    Conclusion - either this system is shot or the motherboard electronics have already fallen and this is manifested by such an effect on the display.

    Maybe I would risk buying a new HA13173AH chip and replace it, I'll find out if he was the culprit :) I will inform about the effects - for posterity.

    Oh, a small question at the end - look, colleagues, to the note of the suspicious system and tell me if the radiation plate is internally connected to the ground or should it be connected to the ground? In my system it is not connected to the ground internally.

    best regards
  • #8 16496518
    Qurak
    Level 17  
    Hello

    I bought a new stabilizer system at CYBORTECH and after soldering to the radio the effect is unchanged. With the new system, the voltages on its legs are identical to those in desoldering. The conclusion is that the fault is elsewhere. Perhaps the reason is the increased temperature, because only it changes after a while after turning on the radio.

    If someone found the reason for this fault, please let me know at PW, because so far the device has not been thrown in the trash ;)
    Oh, if someone needs a CD drive or mechanical components, please write.

    Best regards and thank you for trying to help
  • #9 16746583
    prosumentbb
    Level 2  
    Hello
    I am a user and I have the same problem, radio in Nissan Juke 2011.
    the problem with disappearing pixels only appears after heating in the summer practically illegible in the autumn in a cold garage and in the evenings the ideal.
    My radio does not yet have this switch day night in the upper left corner here is the mute "Mute".
    Surely the manufacturer has known the problem and replaced because the next models have a display with black pixels and only orange backlight and mine has orange pixels.
    best regards
    Michael
  • #11 16748927
    tolo
    Level 35  
    If anyone needs such a display, I have the whole panel for such a radio.
  • #12 17256780
    szymonoo
    Level 2  
    Hello.
    Does anyone know where I can get an LCD for this radio? I mean the new part because with used it is not known if I will not find the same.
  • #13 17256862
    tolo
    Level 35  
    New is unfortunately not available.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around issues with the Radio AGC-0071RF, specifically concerning display contrast fading over time and overheating of the HA13173AH system. Users report that the display becomes illegible after a period of operation, particularly when the device heats up. Various troubleshooting steps have been suggested, including checking voltage levels, improving connections, and testing the LCD module. One user noted that the radio's idle power consumption is high, while another user shared experiences with similar problems in different Nissan models. The consensus indicates that the fault may lie within the LCD module or related components, and there are inquiries about sourcing replacement parts.
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