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Cable Insulation: Using Hot Glue for Underground 230V Fence Gate Power Supply Connection

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  • #1 16426441
    tuvok7
    Level 9  
    Hello,
    I need to connect two wires buried underground - fence gate power supply (230V). According to art, I should do it in a hermetic can and pour resin for insulation, but first of all I don't have resin, secondly I have never used it and I don't know how to do it, and thirdly it is quite expensive for one-time use.
    Hence my question - can you replace the resin with hot glue? That is - I connect the wires with a cube, closed in a box and covered with hot glue. From what I read in this forum, some use epoxy glues or vulcanizing tapes but the use of hot glue seems to me much easier. What do you think about it?
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  • #2 16426449
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    I think that this is a guerrilla, unworthy of the performer.
    Secondly, what is the point of laying and then connecting wires in the ground?
    Without glue, cans and other inventions and so insulation of wires will go on ....
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  • #3 16426542
    KaW
    Level 34  
    If the electric cable was laid in the ground in polyethylene insulation with a special moisture-proof layer, there is a chance of repair using RAYCHEM materials.
    Otherwise, there is probably no chance of repair.
  • #4 16426571
    rafi84
    Level 24  
    According to the art, these should be cables, not wires, and as a colleague pointed out elpapiotr it is a guerrilla. I omit the fact that hot glue will "strain" the insulation of the cables with heat.
  • #5 16426658
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    A can of 200 grams of polyester resin costs 10zeta. And the package has instructions. So it's neither expensive nor difficult to use.
  • #6 16426735
    Brivido

    Level 34  
    Is polyester really suitable for this purpose?
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  • #7 16426955
    tuvok7
    Level 9  
    kortyleski wrote:
    A can of 200 grams of polyester resin costs 10zeta. And the package has instructions. So it's neither expensive nor difficult to use.

    Could you provide a link where can I find it at this price? When I was juggling, it only found me 100 above
  • #8 16426992
    jerry1960
    Level 36  
    Search under "cable joint" or "cable joint repair kit". You will do well and forget.
  • #9 16427084
    Ture11
    Level 39  
    tuvok7 wrote:
    applying hot glue seems to me much easier

    Hot glue hates moisture, half a day it would not stand underground.
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  • #10 16427165
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    jerry1960 wrote:
    Search under "cable joint" or "cable joint repair kit". You will do well and forget.

    Only cable joints, as the name implies, are for cables.
    However, in the title post there are wires.

    The author is hardly able to distinguish between cables and wires, so it doesn't matter what "plugs" the connection, because it will all be dug up after some time ... ;)
  • #11 16428734
    srajponiec
    Level 14  
    Polyester / epoxy resin costs PLN 20-30 per liter, plus the hardener with which the resin is mixed. The instruction is there, all in all it comes down to mixing and pouring and waiting for it to cure. Hot glue is a very bad option, because it will not stick, it will be on the border of the glue with the insulation of the wire (which is different when pouring the whole thing and thin wires stick out), better polyurethane mass, although as expected longevity is such a mass of about 10- 15 years and may have problems with tightness, because it just breaks, we avoid silicones although if the insulation of the cable made of silicone should catch / silicone with acetic acid can negatively affect the durability of the cable. It's all about the materials with which I tried to seal or flood various electronic wonders including oil capacitors for which only polyurethane mass works, because the resins may be okay, they can peel off the housing of such a capacitor and the pudding is made.
    Ture11 wrote:

    tuvok7 wrote:
    applying hot glue seems to me much easier

    Hot glue hates moisture, half a day it would not stand underground.


    He likes water, but the joints do not like it at all, especially from a different material than polyolefins - i.e. plastics such as PE PP, not abs, acrylic, polycarbonate, etc. :D With oil, it also gives advice, but it is important that the housing and the glue and the elements that come into contact with the glue, and are exposed to the environment of water, oils, etc. were made of polyolefins, because then it is tight, with each other just a micro crack and pouring into agent / or leakage depends on what we do.
  • #12 16428774
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    tuvok7 wrote:
    Hello,
    I need to connect two wires buried underground - fence gate power supply (230V). According to art, I should do it in a hermetic can and pour resin for insulation, but first of all I don't have resin, secondly I have never used it and I don't know how to do it

    You don't need anything because the wires they have no right be in the ground, so there is no way to connect them there.
    I close the topic.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using hot glue as an alternative to resin for insulating underground connections of 230V fence gate power supply wires. Several participants express skepticism about the effectiveness of hot glue, citing its inability to withstand moisture and heat, which could compromise the insulation. They emphasize the importance of using proper materials, such as polyester or epoxy resin, which are more suitable for underground applications. The cost of resin is debated, with some arguing it is not prohibitively expensive and is easy to use. The distinction between cables and wires is also highlighted, with concerns raised about the appropriateness of the proposed method for underground installations.
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