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Converting Staircase Installation to Machine: Compliance with Regulations and Use of Bell Switches

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How can I convert a staircase light circuit to use momentary bell pushbuttons and a staircase timer while staying compliant with the wiring rules?

Replace the staircase switches with momentary bell pushbuttons and use a staircase timer/automat for the lighting time function. [#16501824] Put the timer in the box where the lamp is connected, or as shown in the proposed wiring diagram, in the left box. [#16501905] Feed the installation with L and N and add the control wire from the pushbuttons to the timer. [#16501914] Connect the phase wire to both pushbuttons, tie their working contacts together, and run two conductors between the buttons. [#16501914] Then take the timer output to the lamp. [#16501914]
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  • #1 16501755
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
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    Does anyone know of a way to convert a staircase installation into a staircase installation? But the condition attention is such that you stay in accordance with the regulations. So the yellow-green vein is protective.
    The current state is as in the drawing below:
    Converting Staircase Installation to Machine: Compliance with Regulations and Use of Bell Switches
    Of course, the replacement of stair switches with temporary ("bell") options is involved. Or any other, as long as you get the functionality of lighting up the light for a specific time, after which the machine will turn it off. A typical solution like in staircases in blocks.
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  • #2 16501783
    zibi581
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    There is a connection diagram on each stair switch, it is a very simple installation. It is a stair time timer.
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  • #3 16501791
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
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    Well, but in which box to give the machine so that you can control from both cans ...? :-)
    I know that at first glance the problem seems trivial. However, this is probably not the case. Or I have a mental eclipse. ;-)
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    zibi581
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    IN THE FOREST [on the right].
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    mawerix123
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    zibi581 wrote:
    [ on the right ].


    Rather in the left forest.
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    Zdzisław1980
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    Is N cable available in the cans?
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    kokapetyl
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    BK_klp wrote:
    Well, but in which box to give the machine,

    Where the lamp is connected.
    replace the stair switches with buttons / bell.
    If the installation is just like in your picture.
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    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
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    Zdzisław1980 wrote:
    Is N cable available in the cans?
    Yes. It's exactly like the diagram.
    @ zibi581 @ mawerix123 @kokapetyl can you please draw the connections?
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    #9 16501905
    Zdzisław1980
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    Momentary (bell) switches
    Left can machine.
    Can connections (for clarity I marked connections outside the can)
    Converting Staircase Installation to Machine: Compliance with Regulations and Use of Bell SwitchesAutoma..jpg (2.62 MB)You must be logged in to download this attachment.
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    #10 16501914
    kokapetyl
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    BK_klp wrote:
    @kokapetyl can you please draw the connections?

    I have problems with drawing. :D
    You connect the phase wire to two buttons.
    The working contacts of these buttons are connected together.
    Between these buttons you use two veins (brown and black)
    You supply the staircase with power supply (L and N) and an additional wire from these working contacts.
    You leave the machine with the lamp.
    I think you understand what's going on.
  • #11 16501931
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
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    Yeah. However, I had a momentary eclipse. :-D
    It was obvious. Thanks, we're closing.
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✨ The discussion revolves around converting a staircase installation to comply with regulations while utilizing momentary (bell) switches for lighting control. Participants suggest that the installation involves a simple connection diagram for stair time timers. The author seeks clarification on how to control the lighting from multiple locations and requests assistance in drawing the necessary connections. Responses indicate that the phase wire should connect to two buttons, with working contacts linked together, and additional wiring for power supply and lamp connection. The conversation emphasizes the importance of adhering to electrical safety standards, particularly regarding the protective yellow-green wire.
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