Magnum Power VIP 4000 - Internal Components Photos

I took photos of the entrails of the welder, maybe someone will be useful.

Could a colleague write something about welding quality with this type of Magnum?
I'm thinking of buying this inverter. The price is tempting and I don't know if it's worth adding to the Snake 200P.

piotr_go wrote:

Could a colleague write something about welding quality with this type of Magnum?

I don't weld well enough with the electrode, so I can't say much. I still have to work out.
The 2.5 electrode turns red when set to MAX and bends so much power. 4 stuck to me, but can be welded.
Welding cables are quite short, aluminum (fortunately thicker than copper so OK, 25mm2). I exchanged the mass clip for 300A because it was crappy (I stepped on it and bent it).
I didn't buy the higher model because on some pics they had button controls and I didn't want to stuff myself with it. Besides, I have a MIG, but it's too heavy to tug him back and forth.

Anyone have and use? I wonder, because the tempting price and very low weight, which suits me.

alvaro99 wrote:

Anyone have and use? I wonder, because the tempting price and very low weight, which suits me.

Absolutely not suitable for workshop use, only amateur. Toto overheats in flight. After all, the efficiency of the welding inverter is circa 0.75
In this case, the heat sinks must be drained slightly counting kilowatt heat when welding with a 3.25 electrode.

SQ5AZP wrote:

alvaro99 wrote:

Anyone have and use? I wonder, because the tempting price and very low weight, which suits me.

Absolutely not suitable for workshop use, only amateur. Toto overheats in flight. After all, the efficiency of the welding inverter is circa 0.75
In this case, the heat sinks must be drained slightly counting kilowatt heat when welding with a 3.25 electrode.

Did you weld on it or do you write purely theoretically?
So what about five pennies?

I think that for 3 years the technique has gone ahead and you can buy something better at this price. I would not give her PLN 500 now. PLN 250 MAX.
Secondly, I doubt that what they currently sell as VIP 4000 has the same inside as in 2017. After all, it's Chinese equipment.

piotr_go wrote:

I think that for 3 years the technique has gone ahead and you can buy something better at this price. I would not give her PLN 500 now. PLN 250 MAX.
Secondly, I doubt that what they currently sell as VIP 4000 has the same inside as in 2017. After all, it's Chinese equipment.

It didn't help me much. I still don't know what to buy

@ alvaro99 in this topic colleague @ the_eye777 writes his opinion about the welder Magnum Power VIP 4000 .

I will add from myself that I also bought this welder. Below I attach photos of the rating plate as well as the mass holders and electrode.



My copy gives an open circuit voltage of 61.5V (measured with an electronic multimeter). The wires are actually 25mm? in copper braided (I think so), i.e. the braid looks like it was made of copper, but after a slight scraping of the surface with a knife you can see inside an aluminum color. The fan is not that loud at all. It is arranged so that it blows air from outside to inside; heated air escapes from the front and sides.

The welding machine has not yet been tested so concretely, I used three electrodes to practice welding: 2.5 mm rutile electrode. Welding was easy (or at least I thought so) with a current somewhere between 70 and 80A. Protection (so-called "eski") with counters I have C25 and B16 welding circuit. During these tests, no fuse disconnected. I am very beginner in the field of welding, so I can not give any more details at the moment, but I hope that this welder is enough for my small needs - I suspect that I will weld with max 3.2mm electrodes.

piotr_go wrote:

The 2.5 electrode turns red when set to MAX and bends so much power.

You observed this in the state of short circuit (i.e. sticking of the electrode to the welded material) or after the ignition of the arc (i.e. during welding). If this is the first, it means that this ANTI-STICK mechanism (which apparently is in this welder) probably did not work?

piotr_go wrote:

Secondly, I doubt that what they currently sell as VIP 4000 has the same inside as in 2017.

My copy bought in April 2020 looks exactly the same as in your photos.

witek wrote:

If this is the first, it means that this ANTI-STICK mechanism (which apparently is in this welder) probably did not work?

There is no anti-stick, and thinner ones stick.

As if I did a few simple measurements of the welding current with a clamp meter. The device settings seem to be reliable:
setting 20A -> the meter shows 25A
setting 65A -> the meter shows 72A
setting 110A -> the meter shows 120A

I did not measure higher settings.

In addition, with the provoked short circuit of the electrode to the base material, I noticed something like this: the meter shows the welding current according to the setting, after about 2 seconds the current drops to zero.