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  • #1 16510504
    Jeziera95
    Level 1  
    I would like to know how much power the computer uses at 10-12 hours a day and how much it will amount to a month.

    Processor: Intel Intel Core i5-7400 /3.0GHz, 6MB, BOX
    Motherboard: AsRock AsRock H110M-HDV R3.0
    Memory: GoodRam GoodRam 16GB (2x8GB)
    HDD: Western Digital Western Digital Blue 1TB
    SSD: A-Data A-Data SP920 128GB SATA3
    Power supply: Corsair Corsair CX450M 450W
    Graphics card: Gainward Gainward GeForce GTX1060 Phoenix 6GB DDR5 192bit (1708/8000)
    Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster B2230H
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  • #2 16510526
    310artur
    Level 43  
    Buy a wattmeter. They are so to the outlet. There is no other method because it basically depends on what the computer counts for 12 hours, how often and how intensely. You can estimate something there, but in this case, we will rather guess the order of magnitude than any value.
    As for costs - the power consumption in kWh is multiplied by the value of 1kWh plus variable costs and this value can be found on the electricity bill (also not constant and equal for everyone, depending on the location, supplier and tariff).
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  • #3 16510608
    Xebap
    Level 13  
    310artur wrote:
    Buy a wattmeter. They are so to the outlet.


    Maybe not so much as the watt meter, but the "energy meter" you enter in google, you will immediately see what's going on.
    I bought my big damn for 39.99 or 49.99 zlotych a few years ago, which covers 2 sockets so you have to take this into account when you buy, if you have sockets on the contact.
    And the best thing about it is that you do not have to count anything, you only need to know what rate you have for kWh, if you remember my memory in Tauron tariff G11 is 0.61gr / kWh, you enter into this system and he already gives you the final the amount to be paid for "used / collected" energy.

    My 7-year-old computer, consumes about 90W, laptop 2/3 of this power, about 60W.
  • #4 16510611
    Kasek21
    Level 43  
    Assume that in Idle this set gets ~ 100W, and when loaded (eg: game) ~ 200W.
  • #5 16510641
    gumisie
    Level 43  
    Jeziera95 wrote:
    Power supply: Corsair Corsair CX450M 450W
    Gentlemen, maybe I'm wrong but it is not like this: 450W X 1h = 0.45kWh and with ten hours of work this set will come out: 0.45kWh X 10. I know that these 450W is the maximum current efficiency of this power supply.
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  • #6 16510644
    310artur
    Level 43  
    gumisie wrote:
    I might be wrong
    You're probably wrong. Yes it does not work. First of all, the maximum power of the power supply is usually on the secondary side, so the maximum power consumption from the socket is bigger (it has to be divided by efficiency). Secondly, a computer like any device will take as much energy as it needs. It's a bit more complex device than a light bulb but I assure you that if you plug a 10W bulb (eg car on 12V) into such a power supply, it will not explode and the power supply from the outlet will download a little over 10W (11-12W)
  • #7 16510661
    deksta84
    Level 24  
    and without buying a watt-meter you can deal with it. You disconnect everything at home, except for the computer, you play for example: 2 hours (the freezer will not be thawed). By subtracting the energy meter display after turning off everything from the current consumption, you divide these two hours and get satisfactory information. This method combines possible failures in the energy meter itself.
  • #8 16510670
    gumisie
    Level 43  
    310artur wrote:
    the power supply from the outlet will download a little over 10W (11-12W)
    So that's how much? Wh is the unit of energy consumption. Considering 90% efficiency of the power supply + 10W load. They will be Watty or Wh.
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  • #9 16510684
    310artur
    Level 43  
    11.1 Wh (0,011kWh) will be used within one hour.
    We will not discuss integrals and differentials ;) that's how it works. In total, it is worth knowing what you are paying for :P

    PS in engineering practice, the cost of energy is calculated by dividing the size of the bill by energy consumption (in simplified terms, but that makes sense - it counts "forward"). At home, it has little sense but in industry it has. The higher the consumption, the smaller the influence of fixed components on the kWh price. At home, this is the easiest way to calculate the real cost of energy. It can be counted on the basis of the account for the previous period. And just wanting to calculate how much the bill will increase, only the price of kWh and variable components should be taken into account (they are impressed in PLN / kWh, e.g. transmission)
  • #10 16510706
    dt1
    Admin of Computers group
    Completely theoretical:
    At rest (browsing the internet, working in a text editor) such a computer (without a monitor) gets about 50W. More or less (53-60W) models with overclocked i7-6700K and GTX1060 have been downloaded, so you can safely assume that the version with an untwisted processor of the newer generation should fit in around 50W.

    Under full load, this machine took 200W, but the overclocked I7-6700K probably takes a little more than the I5-7400.

    Measurements were already made from the socket, so the efficiency of the power supply does not need to be taken into account.

    10 working hours times 50W = 500Wh = 0.5kWh (no load)
    10 working hours, 200W = 2000Wh = 2kWh (full load)

    The full-load value is pessimistic, even if the game does not persist permanently.

    I do not know how much in your tariff costs 1kWh, but playing 10 hours you will use something between 1 and 2kWh of energy, and looking at the pages probably about 0.5kWh.

    If you want to get more accurate results - the previously recommended measuring device will give you more accurate answers.
  • #11 16510820
    Kasek21
    Level 43  
    Add another monitor because it's another 40-50W.

    That's why I wrote:
    Kasek21 wrote:
    Assume that in Idle this set gets ~ 100W, and when loaded (eg: game) ~ 200W.
  • #12 16510831
    szkieletor11111
    Level 23  
    You connect a universal meter and measure the current drawn from the network. you calculate
    P = U * I
    You have more or less power from the network.
  • #13 16511233
    dt1
    Admin of Computers group
    szkieletor11111 wrote:
    You connect a universal meter and measure the current drawn from the network. you calculate
    P = U * I
    You have more or less electricity drawn from the network.

    It is very difficult to do this in such a way because the current consumption of the computer is not constant, it varies depending on the load. It will be difficult to consider the results calculated from one instantaneous measurement reliable.
  • #14 16513674
    CMS
    Administrator of HydePark
    szkieletor11111 wrote:
    You connect a universal meter and measure the current drawn from the network. you calculate
    P = U * I
    You have more or less power from the network.


    Measurement completely nonsensical.
  • #15 16513744
    deksta84
    Level 24  
    I would add an audio amplifier and what else is there around the computer. The easiest way to read from your electricity meter is consumption in a longer unit of time. This is the most authoritative way to estimate the labor costs of a computer set.
  • #16 16513774
    Kasek21
    Level 43  
    deksta84 wrote:
    This is the most authoritative way to estimate the labor costs of a computer set.

    The most reliable is the wattmeter.

    The problem is different to accurately estimate the consumption - because it is not constant in a unit of time; for this, looking at the monthly settlement will always be different because the computer is used to varying degrees.

    This is a new computer - there are tests what is the power consumption so I will repeat:

    Kasek21 wrote:
    Assume that in Idle this set gets ~ 100W, and when loaded (eg: game) ~ 200W.
  • #17 16513847
    deksta84
    Level 24  
    Wattmeter what type? It has been found (which is true) that the computer set is loading the network. The wattmeter measures the instantaneous power consumed. How is it for real wear, eg daily diurnal?

    Same problem in this topic:
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  • #18 16513998
    310artur
    Level 43  
    Enter a watt meter for allegro - that's what they say, but these are energy meters. They integrate over time, some even give wonders wreaths like CO2 emissions ;) So you have, for example, the sum of energy consumed during 10 hours. There is still an open question, what is the frequency of measurement, but it is already enough to estimate the consumption - you plug the list into the socket for this and for example, you count the week. You divide multiply and you have an average of an hour exactly enough even in the case of an unevenly loaded PC.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around estimating the power consumption of a computer setup featuring an Intel Core i5-7400 processor, AsRock H110M-HDV motherboard, 16GB GoodRam memory, Western Digital Blue 1TB HDD, A-Data SP920 128GB SSD, Corsair CX450M power supply, Gainward GeForce GTX1060 graphics card, and a Samsung SyncMaster B2230H monitor. Participants suggest using a wattmeter or energy meter to measure actual consumption, as power usage varies based on load conditions. Estimates indicate idle consumption around 50-100W and up to 200W under full load. Calculations for monthly costs involve multiplying kWh usage by local electricity rates. The conversation emphasizes the importance of measuring actual usage for accurate cost estimation.
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