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ACO CDN-USB Intercom Cable Diagram: Identifying GND, RX, TX, and + for Programming Compatibility

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How can I identify the GND, RX, TX and power wires in the ACO CDN-USB programming cable, and will a non-original USB-to-serial adapter work for programming?

The cable is not just a plain USB-to-RS232/TTL lead; inside it uses an FT232RL-based converter, and the programming software checks for the original FTDI-based cable through FTD2XX/D2XX, so a random USB adapter usually will not work [#16580259][#16580671] If you want to build or troubleshoot one, first use a voltmeter to find GND and the supply wire, then connect the remaining two wires to the intercom and swap them if communication does not start [#16567139] The thread does not provide a fixed pinout for RX/TX/+ because the exact wiring was not identified there. One reply also notes that changing VID/PID in another FTDI adapter may help only if the software is not tied directly to the D2XX library [#16580393] Another reply mentions the original cable may have programmed FTDI EEPROM data, possibly including an identifier the software expects [#16580259][#16584239]
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  • #1 16514353
    tanya03
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    Hello. I have a question for dear colleagues who are experts in electronic subjects, namely if someone has a cable diagram as in the subject, or maybe someone has one and can throw some photos what it looks like inside? link to the manufacturer's website with a cable
    http://www.aco.com.pl/pl,produkt,cdn-usb-kabel-do-programowania
    I suppose it is a regular usb rs232 converter, maybe ttl, in the photo you can see 4 wires which would correspond to gnd, rx, tx, and +. but where is which? he he, and one more issue whether the computer software for programming these intercoms would work with a non-original cable? a lot of unknowns, but I think the topic is developmental and it is worth taking care of,
    I greet and hope for an answer
    ACO CDN-USB Intercom Cable Diagram: Identifying GND, RX, TX, and + for Programming Compatibility
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  • #2 16567139
    lehastar
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    C use a voltmeter to determine where GND and where the power is. Then, GND and two unknowns connected to the intercom. Turn on the intercom power supply. If the program does not work, swap the two unknown wires.
  • #3 16576371
    IGS

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    this cable is not only an electric signal dissipation but also a converter supporting ftdi, couplers, if you count it all - it's probably the amount of 60-80 PLN for the ready one is reasonable
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  • #5 16577319
    lehastar
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    If up to PLN 100 is not worth the trouble ..
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  • #7 16577378
    lehastar
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    The Lord is absolutely right.
    Joke - I once made an RS-232 converter into RS-485 :)
    ACO CDN-USB Intercom Cable Diagram: Identifying GND, RX, TX, and + for Programming Compatibility ACO CDN-USB Intercom Cable Diagram: Identifying GND, RX, TX, and + for Programming Compatibility
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    IGS

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    beautiful "spider" - it is important that it worked :)
    however, I wrote back what I wrote back not accidentally,
    the author assumed that he is dealing with a simple converter ...
    most of us here are electronics and can do something, sometimes like, sometimes must - but in this case I preferred to make the author aware, it would be cheaper than wasting time to buy a ready-made product with plugs, housing ...
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  • #10 16580259
    tanya03
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    Hello.
    The cable was bought from the manufacturer, it works as it should, so ok, but I took it apart anyway to see what's sitting there, hehe. so this is the FTDI 1549-C chip and the smaller 54TI JBR, the cable after connecting to the computer is identified as "ACO CDN" later, after installing the controls, it is as "USB SERIAL CONVERTER" software for managing the interphone exchange, after starting it detects the connected cable and you can work, I tried on a different usb rs converter but the program did not detect it, maybe there is something programmed in the FTDI chip so the program knows that the cable is the right one.
    That's it for your message, thanks for your interest in the topic.

    best regards. ACO CDN-USB Intercom Cable Diagram: Identifying GND, RX, TX, and + for Programming Compatibility
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  • #11 16580393
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  • #12 16580671
    tanya03
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    Hello.
    Of course you are right, the offer to all this misread is actually FT232RL, sorry for the error.
    In the second case, you are also right, the application communicates via FTD2XX.dll without it, the program does not start, on another adapter it does not work regardless of the replacement of the wires.
  • #14 16583085
    tanya03
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    IGS wrote:
    without a cable with a converter, the program works, but in the offline mode

    Yes, you are right, I did not express myself precisely when I wrote that it does not work, I mean that it is impossible to make changes in the headquarters, i.e. that there is no communication between the management program and the headquarters, and not that the computer program itself does not work.
  • #15 16584239
    lehastar
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    R-MIK wrote:

    My not that good, but it worked too.

    A very beautiful sight. Sorry about the offtop. I want to entertain my friends:
    ACO CDN-USB Intercom Cable Diagram: Identifying GND, RX, TX, and + for Programming Compatibility ACO CDN-USB Intercom Cable Diagram: Identifying GND, RX, TX, and + for Programming Compatibility ACO CDN-USB Intercom Cable Diagram: Identifying GND, RX, TX, and + for Programming Compatibility

    About the topic - I made a simple software protection key based on FT232RL. The program checks the MD5 programmed in the FT232RL EEPROM based on the serial number. http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/SoftwareExamples/FTDIChip-ID.htm
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  • #17 20078523
    Mikrob
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    Has anyone tried to use other USB converters that are on sale for programming, e.g. atmega?
  • #18 21479821
    vogelek1
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    Question and how do the wires come out on the other side of the cable from this purchased ftdi usb module? can you send a photo of this other end?

Topic summary

✨ The discussion centers on identifying the pinout (GND, RX, TX, +) of the ACO CDN-USB programming cable used for intercom systems, which internally contains an FTDI FT232RL USB-to-serial converter chip. The cable has four wires corresponding to ground, receive, transmit, and power lines, but exact wire-to-pin mapping is not explicitly confirmed; users suggest using a voltmeter to identify GND and power, then testing RX and TX by swapping wires if communication fails. The official cable is recognized by the programming software via a specific USB VID/PID and communicates through the FTDI D2XX driver library, making non-original cables or generic USB-to-serial adapters incompatible without modifying VID/PID or EEPROM settings. The FT232RL chip’s EEPROM can be programmed to emulate the original cable’s identity, which is necessary for the software to detect and communicate with the intercom system. Attempts to use other USB converters without FTDI or with different VID/PID fail to establish communication, although the software can run in offline mode without the cable. The cable’s internal components include the FT232RL and a smaller 54TI JBR chip. Some users discuss the cost-effectiveness of making a custom cable versus buying the original, noting the complexity of soldering FTDI chips and the importance of proper chip programming for compatibility. Photos of the cable internals and homemade converters are shared, illustrating practical approaches to cable construction and modification.
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