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Visteon 281077 / R013 - X07 - Radio R & GO from Renault Twingo III in a diff

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  • #1 16522524
    rysiuncio
    Level 10  
    Hey

    I have a radio with Renault Twingo III. The radio is R & GO.
    Visteon 281077 / R013 - X07 - Radio R & GO from Renault Twingo III in a diff
    I want to connect it to another car, but it is probably paired with a specific car and communicates with it after CAN.
    Did any of you have to do? Can it be circumvented?

    Visteon production radio
    Supplier code: 281077
    Renault Part code: 28115 6611R
    Part Name: R013 - X07
    Visteon 281077 / R013 - X07 - Radio R & GO from Renault Twingo III in a diff

    In the middle I see the processor STA2165XM2 BC AA022 VQ TWN AA 435 ARM,
    next to the NANYA 1429 memory chip, so it's a smarter system for me.
    Visteon 281077 / R013 - X07 - Radio R & GO from Renault Twingo III in a diff

    I am asking for advice if it can be moved to talk with another car. I would also be grateful for the possible schematic of the connectors. There are two sockets, 20 pin I have an adapter, there is audio and power. It would be useful to spread this 32 PIN
    Visteon 281077 / R013 - X07 - Radio R & GO from Renault Twingo III in a diff
    Or maybe I would be able to connect it to the network of my Laguna II and connect it to CLIP (I suppose that another speed on CAN, but to ask will not hurt)?
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  • #2 16540123
    pns16
    Level 1  
    Hi, I have a schematic and similar radio only 1din from Masters. After giving him power it was ok, the menu worked but after connecting + 12V in the contact of the ignition switch (7 pin right cube) the radio has been blocked and there is communication: "System blocked contact the supplier". So what is now with you.
    He concludes that he has been blocked because he has no communication with the car via CAN.
    Visteon 281077 / R013 - X07 - Radio R & GO from Renault Twingo III in a diff


    in the attachment you have pictures of plugins based on which this simple scheme is

    From what I read on the Dacia forum it is possible to connect this radio directly to CAN by selecting multimedia options or something like that. In pdf you have these pins, in addition, as you start the radio, one of the scalpers is responsible for CAN, I do not remember which (probably near this 32pin plug) but how you will look at Google after the signs you find.

    If you solve the problem, write here, because I would also like to run this radio.
  • #3 16543447
    rysiuncio
    Level 10  
    Thanks great for the scheme.

    It seems that in plug 32 I am interested in pins (counted backwards) 17 and 18.
    Pin 17 to pin 14 in the OBD plug, i.e. CAN Low
    Pin 18 to pin 6 in the OBD plug - CAN High

    The chip you're talking about is already located, it's the IC301 position near the 32pin socket. This is NXP TJA1042 (http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/TJA1042.pdf). I checked the scalout legs to the 32 pin and CAN L and CAN H sockets. The feet are counted from the white dot around, on the foot 6 is CAN L, on the stem 7 is CAN H.
    In the data sheet there is something about the stanby mode, I wonder if it would allow it to be cheated.

    Now, my most important question is whether the incorporation of this into the lagging network of my Laguna II did not burn me in CAN? Because I did not want to immobilize the toy car. I also think about what would be needed to simulate this CAN on the table, would UCH help me?

    What are you trying to connect to the radio?
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  • #4 17621879
    sadek1979
    Cars specialist
    Theme old but coming back. I have exactly the same symptom in the master. Maybe someone will tell you how to run such radios.
  • #5 17637636
    raptor650
    Level 2  
    Hi, I have twingo and I have lost the problem: I changed the radio to used, but it is immediately blocked and tells me to contact the seller.
    Do you know how to disable this protection?
    thanks in advance
  • #6 17638274
    sadek1979
    Cars specialist
    Radio on the shelf and that's it. Maybe you're like me. one swims by can-e and the second by analogue.
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  • #7 17675682
    raptor650
    Level 2  
    sorry I do not understand well what do you mean, how to make connections?
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  • #8 17779044
    netoperek
    Level 12  
    Gentlemen, I have a radio like the one in the pictures, and I want to connect it to Renault Scenic 2006. Can you advise me where to buy the right adapter? All adapters are used to connect an ordinary radio to the Renault installation, and I just want to plug Renault but from different vintages (slot from R.2006 and plug from R.2015 < ;) I would do the adapter itself, but how can I make it work? And how do you deal with this blocking? I did not know that this was the problem, I thought it was enough to enter the radio code and already. Where to get it?

    Visteon 281077 / R013 - X07 - Radio R & GO from Renault Twingo III in a diff Visteon 281077 / R013 - X07 - Radio R & GO from Renault Twingo III in a diff Visteon 281077 / R013 - X07 - Radio R & GO from Renault Twingo III in a diff
  • #9 17781742
    SZYMON BYDGOSZCZ
    Level 38  
    netoperek wrote:
    And how do you deal with this blocking?


    This does not apply to you because for an old car without a cana to the radio you set up a radio from a newer year.

    Kostke radio - iso you will get on the Allegro.
  • #10 17781784
    netoperek
    Level 12  
    SZYMON BYDGOSZCZ wrote:
    ... Kostke radio - iso you will get on the Allegro.


    Well with this is the problem, because on the Allegro are cubes, where there are sockets to connect the adapter to the bundle in the car, and the plug to connect to the new radio. And I need an adapter, where there will be plugs for the radio presented in the picture, and sockets for the beam in Renault Scenic (the current radio is Tuner List Update).
  • #12 17841311
    ja2103
    Level 7  
    Hello, I have the same radio when I plug in the power immediately blocking all the time I write, I am undergoing authentication, I understand that the radio on the shelf or there is some way that it worked in clio3.
  • #13 17841793
    SZYMON BYDGOSZCZ
    Level 38  
    ja2103 wrote:
    I understand that the radio is on the shelf or is there any way that it works in clio3.


    After all, this radio is not up to clio 3.
  • #14 17842984
    ja2103
    Level 7  
    I know that it is not for clio3 to clio I wanted to mount it because I had a cassette there for a play, and such a radio I have new on the shelf only a problem with what I wrote.
  • #15 18236165
    corb
    Level 13  
    It seems to me that the radio communicates on can to compare the body number. I will try to read the EPROM and let me know what is there unless someone has already solved this puzzle?
  • #16 18289622
    ja2103
    Level 7  
    Hello, I was able to read something from this eprom.
  • #17 18325126
    oktik
    Level 15  
    It worked and what did you read there?
  • #18 18556089
    bihop
    Level 12  
    I will dig a little bit about Visteon radio.
    I have a Renault Clio with Visteon radio and I want to replace them with other factory cars in this model, namely Media Nav with navigation.
    Cubes on both radios different, I am in the process of acquiring such to make an adapter. (nobody offers such ready meals)
    I just wonder if the radio will talk to my car, mainly CAN.
    Media Nav has a little more signal pins used, while for me there are not so many.
    I also suppose Visteon is more "talking" on CAN.
    Clio is from 2017 and Media Nav would be from this period, e.g. LAN5210WR4
    Someone may have some experience in this topic.
  • #19 18562609
    Kolba72
    Level 2  
    I have the same problem and I can't find adapters anywhere. I do not want to cut the original cables without certainty that it will walk. Maybe you have bearings for such adapters.
  • #20 18564565
    bihop
    Level 12  
    You can buy but ready as ISO adapters. You need to buy several different ones to have what you need. And remake them. The problem is they don't have all the pins. And it comes out a lot because some plugins are waste for us which we paid for. Anything else is on Aliexpres but is it starting now.
  • #21 18564728
    Kolba72
    Level 2  
    If you managed to connect it can throw a diagram or photo of the connections of individual cables to the appropriate pins. It will be easier for me to do this.
  • #22 18565721
    bihop
    Level 12  
    I haven't done anything physically yet. I am currently collecting information on whether this will work and what to expect.
  • #23 18710485
    eekz
    Level 10  
    These radios are assigned to the car's VIN. If it clings with CLIP and communicates with the radio via CAN, then the VIN is entered there and the radio checks the compliance of the entered VIN number with the VIN number of the car each time the key is turned. You can assign a new VIN number on the radio to the CLIP just mentioned.
  • #24 18714155
    bihop
    Level 12  
    If you can change CLIP then it would be quite easy because on the forums you can read that there are problems with it. I exchange such a radio for Media Nav, if you manage to remove the VIN from the original, i.e.R&GO, maybe I will resell it to someone, because if it is not the radio is worth nothing.
    As for Media Nav, I changed the VIN with the DDT4all program, although it worked even with others, Media Nav probably does not verify it. I wonder if DDT4all can change VIN in R&GO.
  • #25 18769909
    oktik
    Level 15  
    You will not change DDT on this radio.
  • #26 18794389
    bihop
    Level 12  
    In fact DDT can't do it.
    An attempt to change the VIN ends with a radio lock.
    Similarly, with the attempt to disable the "antitheft" option, it seems to me responsible for checking the VIN, the radio also blocks.
    Having the factory radio on the car should not be a problem, except for the verification option.
    It is good that after resetting the power supply and connecting the radio to the CAN of the car from which the radio comes, the lock will be deactivated.
    This is how to deal with such radio, VIN change and its verification by CAN.
  • #27 18947439
    natal22
    Level 10  
    Have any of you solved the problem with this radio because I have the same problem ...
  • #28 18964774
    natal22
    Level 10  
    No one from the forum knows the solution related to this radio ..? I tried to mount him an emulator on the can li can hz vinem line from this car, which was removed but it does not work ...
  • #29 19021306
    VlaoMao
    Level 1  
    natal22 wrote:
    No one from the forum knows the solution related to this radio ..? I tried to mount him an emulator on the can li can hz vinem line from this car, which was removed but it does not work ...

    Hello, what kind of can emulator you used?

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the Visteon R & GO radio (part code 281077) from the Renault Twingo III, focusing on its compatibility and connection issues when attempting to use it in a different vehicle. Users report that the radio is likely paired with a specific car via CAN communication, leading to a "System blocked" message when power is applied without the original vehicle's CAN connection. Several users share insights on pin configurations for CAN connections, potential solutions for bypassing the radio's security features, and the challenges of finding or creating appropriate adapters for different Renault models. The conversation also touches on the possibility of changing the radio's VIN through diagnostic tools, although many express skepticism about the feasibility of this approach. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of integrating this specific radio model into other vehicles and the need for detailed wiring diagrams and adapters.
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