Report from the periodic 5-year inspection of the electrical installation

101pawel wrote:

Hello,
- I think someone has such a protocol accepted by PINB,

There are no such miracles. Everything in the subject, i.e. the scope and types of tests, and even an exemplary protocol model, is found in the PN-HD 60364-6 standard
Low voltage electrical installations - Part 6: Checking.

101pawel wrote:

I do not find this standard in the free version?

The standards are paid, there are no "free" standards.

Buddy, for this you got the number of the standard to get acquainted with the requirements.
On the other hand, you can create the protocol you like, the most important thing is to include all the important things. I use my own tables and descriptions.
Sometimes I print only four protocols, each for a different type of measurement (you will find various examples on the Internet), and this is usually enough.
You can also create so-called books from reviews, where you have a title page, list of standards on the basis of which the report was drawn up, information about the person performing the review together with a photocopy of qualifications certificates, information on the meter and measurement methods, its calibration and calibration certificate, measurement tables, building description, list of defects and post-audit recommendations, ruling and table of contents. Possibly, some attachments, diagrams, floor plans.


Forgive me but I will not post complete completed protocol. There is confidential data there and I respect my clients. The report belongs to them and if they deem it appropriate, they can make it public, if necessary. I, of course, always keep a copy, but only in case of a random - court, prosecutor, or loss of the original by the investor.

There is no such thing as:

101pawel wrote:

protocol accepted by PINB

Protocols formulas are the whole mass on the internet, just enter the "measurement protocol" into the search engine.
Secondly, I can not imagine that the measuring laborer does not know what the installation overview is and what the protocol looks like.

I once talked to a friend judge (penal department) how it is with this norms if there are no regulations, and there are norms and stated that if it is so, he (court) would have any grounds for giving a ruling . At the same time, he pointed out that we are all human and that he would do so does not mean that another court would do the same. So he goes to what he wrote

15kVmaciej wrote:

But if the installation was made in accordance with standards, it is safe. However, if you refer to ignorance and non-compulsory standards, in case something was done against the norms, how do you prove that the installation is safe?

Another thing is poorly translated into Polish standards (Dr. Musiał once used to abuse this topic).

15kVmaciej wrote:

I imagine. For example, many people do not know that the RCD measures the response time and a different time limit is in the case of using RCD in additional protection and another limit in case of application to meet the condition of SWZ.

In the case of new RCDs, no response time is measured unless something has changed recently.
And as for the case of reset installations, there is no rule of existing protection there (on the islands), have they been outlawed yet?

15kVmaciej wrote:

I will be gentle, so I will ask - if we do not measure time, what do we measure and for what purpose?

Unfortunately, as far as I know, in the Polish version of the standard, they do not deal with solutions used in installations in the UK. But I promise to look again.

15kVmaciej wrote:

Buddy, for many years there is no zeroing and similar circuses on the Isles.
I will be gentle, so I will ask - if we do not measure time, what do we measure and for what purpose?

In the case of new ones, we measure the trip current to determine if it is in the appropriate range.
Well, unless something has changed in the last few years ...


Greetings,
genuinejanbar.

PS.
I assure you that I have read the relevant Polish standards and even a certain green book and in both cases I have made a positive check whether I remember something for them ...;]

Only the response current is measured at RCD. Time can be additionally.
Other installations and houses are on the islands. You can not do everything by modeling yourself on other countries. There are other possibilities for eg earthing installations in Norway and others in Poland. Same as energy systems.
The basis is a sound and reasonable reasoning of problems and their solutions.

genuinejanbar wrote:

In the case of new ones, we measure the trip current,

thomyk wrote:

Only the response current is measured at RCD. Time can be additionally.

Where does this requirement come from? Any recipe or standard would come in handy ...

genuinejanbar wrote:

Well, unless something has changed in the last few years ...

The problem is that these years have passed a lot, an age or more ...

thomyk wrote:

Other installations and houses are on the islands.

Others are installations bred by Polish ignorant alepstryków.