Understanding Single-Family House Electrical Measurements: SEP 1kV D+E+ Protocol

Hello
I have SEP qualifications for 1kV D + E + measurements
However, I would like to know what the protocol of electrical measurements of a single-family house should look like. because I have not seen one with my eyes yet and I have measurements to be made and I would like to put it correctly so that it has arms and legs.
Can someone help me and give me a link or file?
I found something like this:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?...xlX2lkIjtzOjQ6&Cd2lkIjtzOjQ6&Cd2lkIjtzOjQ6&cd
but I'm not sure because there are many sub-items in both of the tables that I don't really understand. it seems to me that this protocol may apply to, for example, industrial or multi-apartment facilities (blocks, tenement houses, etc.)
I will be extremely grateful for any help!

As far as I know, the symbols Pn, Po, Pg are responsible for the machines, so this is a protocol from the factories, you can tell by the fact that it has a lot of positions.

Standard 64364 6 includes a protocol template in the appendices.

In the attachment you have an example. In Mr. Orlik's book, you also have templates of protocols, and as my colleague wrote above. You can edit the protocol according to your needs, e.g. when measuring the insulation resistance.

kkas12 You mean PN-HD 64364-6? found but no patterns here.
Can you send me the link?

Let a colleague look at the appendices of this standard, and not at the standard itself.

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can you send the link?

This standard is payable, you will not find it on the Internet.

Annex H of the PN HD 60364 6: 2008 standard.
Link

You're not talking about that

Just about it.
Have you ever used this pattern, mate?
I suggest to use / try it when you are dealing with a smart and annoying client.
Observe his expression when such protocol is received.
Indescribable

Da.
And imagine that it should probably get easier with each subsequent one.
I haven't made much of them.

It seems that it would be fine to buy this standard after all
I have one more question:
Apart from the RCD test, measurement of insulation resistance, short-circuit loop impedance and continuity of protective connections, do you need any additional measurements for the electrical installation acceptance protocol?

Again, the circle is closed. In this standard, you have a detailed scope of acceptance and periodic tests.
And many other useful information for the surveyor.
By the way, what do they teach in measurement courses now?
As for the protocols: Knowing the requirements for recording an acceptance or periodic inspection (also included in this standard), you can create such a protocol yourself.

They teach a lot, but everything seems okay if someone with experience is standing next to it. On the other hand, the first independent measurements, which (in the event of a small stupid slip-up) no one corrects, raise some concerns. This is why I am here

The first self measurements should be performed ..... by an experienced person. Paradoxically, this is also the norm.
Exactly point 62.1.6.

I will throw in a more expressive table so that you can read it:

zdzisiek1979 wrote:

And it can be completed
I'm going for a beer

While the measurement results and abbreviations of markings can be entered there, I cannot imagine writing comments or descriptions in a 1cm wide box.

I can only write that I use my own

Łukasz-O wrote:

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While the measurement results and abbreviations of markings can be entered there, I cannot imagine writing comments or descriptions in a 1cm wide box.

I think you need to code everything and put a legend to it, because the grids are actually very small. Well, unless the font 0.5 and the A0 format . But seriously, the columns are very small. In addition, at the bottom of the table there is a Function Code column, in which there are few possibilities and the rest you probably have to create yourself. While in a single-family house or housing construction, it will not necessarily work in an industrial plant.
For example, there is CB in column 9. I don't know what that means.
There is an example of the protocol, but the filling instructions are missing.
Łukasz-O wrote:

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I can only write that I use my own

I guarantee that in the event of an inspection, you will have an objection that you do not follow the protocol specified in the standard.

Dude, this table is an example of the creator of the standard.
This is for people who are looking for a ready-made product and do not want to think. Some think and make their own, others use programs, while others take cash from literature or the Internet.

A protocol is a collection of information ranging from circuit identification through measurement results to evaluation.
The protocol can even be written on a piece of paper only to contain what is important in a given measurement and reliably. And I recommend a blue pen, even red or green, but not black
But does the person reading it really know what it is about? Maybe the problem is that they do not know what they are getting and they negate this version in favor of the known standard.

Perhaps only this protocol is a version to the delight of ecologists, because we will save on 3 sheets of paper on a good day.
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I suspect that column 9 refers to circuit breakers and column 8 to fuses, hence the abbreviation CB

Romaniczok wrote:

I guarantee that in the event of an inspection, you will have an objection that you do not follow the protocol specified in the standard.

Two of my protocols were crucial in some court hearings. They were reviewed by experts and experts - no one clung to the tables made in Łukasz-O, despite the fact that the protocols were prepared on the basis of the well-known PN-HD 60364-6 "Checking" standard.

The information in the table is important, not the artwork Instead of this one, he uses several.

Romaniczok wrote:

I guarantee that in the event of an inspection, you will have an objection that you do not follow the protocol specified in the standard.

Buddy, do not make an engagement or you will lose your arm.
I also had a situation where my protocols were checked by the prosecutor and an expert from the guards and the insurer, and no one had any problems with anything.
The protocols were made by me and were not even prepared on the basis of a standard or any model. It was completely my idea, but it contained all the necessary data and measurement results.
There are only proposals for protocol templates, there is no one template required by law, so no one has the right to demand that the protocol contained in the standard be used.
If, however, you run into a moose that sticks, you should ask for the legal basis of its inventions.

Ok guys. "I guarantee" is maybe too big a word. But I will tell from my own experience how it was. We had a labor inspection inspection. Of course, the result was an inspection report with reservations and recommendations. One of the recommendations for the future was to perform measurements based on the applicable standards - PN-HD 60364-6: 2008 "Checking". I asked the inspector what exactly was going on. He said that the results should be included in the table in Annex H of the specified standard. I did not discuss any further. This is actually an informative appendix.
zdzisiek1979 he wrote:

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I suspect that column 9 refers to circuit breakers and column 8 to fuses, hence the abbreviation CB

Column 10 has a name: type and I understand that we enter there what type of protection, whether C or B, and it can be D, which is not in column 9.

Hello!
I refresh the topic. During this time, did anyone fill in the protocol according to the new, exemplary pattern from the standard 60364-6: 2008?

I use Proton, so no.

Romaniczok wrote:

zdzisiek1979 he wrote:

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I suspect that column 9 refers to circuit breakers and column 8 to fuses, hence the abbreviation CB

Column 10 has a name: type and I understand that we enter there what type of protection, whether C or B, and it can be D, which is not in column 9.

The meaning of the abbreviation CB is explained in the standard in Annex G.

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CB - acronym for English words "Circuit-breaker" - switch.

Please pay attention to part G.1. Installation inspection form. In part B there is an item: Protective devices. There is also CB next to RCD. So if it occurs, I should give its type.

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Romaniczok wrote:

Hello!
I refresh the topic. During this time, did anyone fill in the protocol according to the new, exemplary pattern from the standard 60364-6: 2008?

Many times.
My friend, I have the impression that, like any new measurement tester, you overestimate the results of the measurements, forgetting about visual inspection ! Read more about Appendix G of the standard, which clearly states how important the descriptive part of checking the electrical installation is!
On the other hand, Annex H is to contain only the least favorable measurements, not all of them!
Which does not mean that they should not be made.

I did.
I have been filling out such forms since 2006, initially in Great Britain, and from the end of 2009 in Polish.

Romaniczok wrote:

Was anyone filling the protocol during this time? according to new , an example of the formula from standard 60364-6

I am currently filling out the form according to the new formula from the PN-HD 60364-6: 2016-07 standard.
It's only just driving ...

e-sparks wrote:

It's only just driving ...

So you have to try

retrofood wrote:

My friend, I have the impression that, like every new measurement tester, you overestimate the results of the measurements, forgetting about the inspection! Read more about Appendix G of the standard, which clearly states how important the descriptive part of checking the electrical installation is!

The visual inspection is very important, but the measurement result from the measuring instrument is a specific value on the basis of which it can be assessed whether a given condition is met or not.

retrofood wrote:

On the other hand, Annex H is to contain only the least favorable measurements, not all of them!

And where is it written to include only the most unfavorable test results in the protocol? The protocol completed for each point is the most accurate. I think so.

Romaniczok wrote:

The inspection is very important but

Visual inspection is the most important part of the activities known as checking the condition of the installation, while the measurement results are only an addition that quantifies the parameters of the installation.
The protocol without the descriptive part (inspection) is invalid because it proves that they were not performed. Even the most sophisticated meter is only an addition to the knowledge of the tester.

Romaniczok wrote:

The protocol completed for each point is the most accurate.

My last larger research protocol was about 350 pages long, it contained only the most unfavorable results, including 16 pages of comments. The protocol completed for each checked point would probably be 3-4 times bigger ...

e-sparks wrote:

My last bigger research protocol was contained on about 350 pages,

You are a debaucher. I only got 112 pages.

Hello "old surveyors"

I have such a dilemma
whether to sign the test report of the new elec. in home :
"The installation is operational"
despite the fact that in the comment field I have to write:
"Plug sockets in bathrooms to be replaced with type IP44"

Greetings