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Testing the Functionality of a Repaired Bestway 58259 Pool Water Heater

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  • #1 16576785
    SledgehammerPL
    Level 9  
    Of course, without waiting for several hours to heat up.
    The point is, for example, after 10 minutes from switching on feel the water that it is warmer?
    There is a heating element inside - how many degrees does it heat up?

    I bought used (broken) - I repaired the electronics, began to react, but I do not feel the effects and I do not know whether to expect hot water at the outlet, or because it heats only a little, it will not feel right away. For now, I'm walking and waiting, but for my nose the heater should be hot for it to work.

    On the other hand, they write that only up to 40 * C heats up, so maybe I won't really feel ...
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  • #2 16576824
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist  
    SledgehammerPL wrote:
    I bought used (broken) - I repaired the electronics, began to react, but did not feel the effects


    And what does it write on the rating plate (power)? Count the power consumption and check if it consumes as much as it should.

    SledgehammerPL wrote:
    I don't know whether to expect hot water at the outlet


    As the flow is high, the temperature increase will be small, not to mention the time that will be needed to heat all the water in the pool ...

    edit:
    Bestway 58259 has a power of 2.8kW. Heating 1000 liters of water at 10 ° C requires 11.63kWh, assuming there is no loss.
    The question is how big is your pool and what heating do you expect?
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  • #3 16576841
    technikabasenowa
    Level 33  
    The easiest way is a thermometer in the nozzles and check what is the temperature difference with the pool water :-)
    At this power the difference can be 0.5 to 1 degree - depending of course on the flow.
  • #4 16576879
    SledgehammerPL
    Level 9  
    jdubowski wrote:
    SledgehammerPL wrote:
    I bought used (broken) - I repaired the electronics, began to react, but did not feel the effects


    And what does it write on the rating plate (power)? Count the power consumption and check if it consumes as much as it should.

    SledgehammerPL wrote:
    I don't know whether to expect hot water at the outlet


    As the flow is high, the temperature increase will be small, not to mention the time that will be needed to heat all the water in the pool ...

    edit:
    Bestway 58259 has a power of 2.8kW. Heating 1000 liters of water at 10 ° C requires 11.63kWh, assuming there is no loss.

    The question is how big is your pool and what heating do you expect?

    5000 L - according to the instructions, it is supposed to heat 0.5-1.5 / h at 1.520-18.930 L pools (as I understand it, as I have a pool 1.5 to 1.5 * C / ha as 18.930 to 0.5 * C / h
    so I assumed 1 * C / h pessimistically But looking at your calculations, it will take him ca. 20 hours - not well ...

    My pump is 3,000l / h

    Added after 53 [seconds]:
    technikabasenowa wrote:
    The easiest way is a thermometer in the nozzles and check what is the temperature difference with the pool water :-)
    At this power the difference can be 0.5 to 1 degree - depending of course on the flow.


    I don't have any thermometer to measure :(

    Added after 13 [minutes]:

    HA! I found the meter! when it turns on it pulls 2.4kW, which means it works ... Eh, you will have to go buy a pool thermometer to check it ...
  • #5 16576918
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist  
    SledgehammerPL wrote:
    Except that I just counted, that my pump is too strong ... so twice as powerful ... I have to look for the weaker one ....


    An oversized pump can at most cause the heater to turn off (doubtful - it probably has protection against too low flow, not against too much).

    SledgehammerPL wrote:
    I don't have any thermometer to measure


    Check according to the meter - switching on almost 3kW reception should show a clear effect on the rotation speed of the dial or the "flashing" of the diode. If the power consumes it means it works and that's it, and if you expect faster heating then you should simply use something with more power (and provide adequate power).
    It is also worth remembering that the pool is properly insulated (cover for the night) and the possible use of solar energy covering with black foil).
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  • #6 16576920
    Magister_123
    Level 36  
    Changing the pump to a weaker one will not change anything, you will simply have hotter water at the outlet but it will be correspondingly less.
    As for me, this heater is suitable for a pool of 500L max. Take interest in building simple solar collectors or a heat exchanger under which you can directly smoke https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2594299-420.html#15735899
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  • #7 16577074
    SledgehammerPL
    Level 9  
    Magister_123 wrote:
    Changing the pump to a weaker one will not change anything, you will simply have hotter water at the outlet but it will be correspondingly less.
    As for me, this heater is suitable for a pool of 500L max

    Cramp, 500l, however, is an inflection, since they state in the specification that it is suitable for 1500-19000l pools, at 5000L it seemed appropriate

    And I will make a solar heater, but I wanted to help myself on cloudy days ...
  • #8 16577260
    Magister_123
    Level 36  
    SledgehammerPL wrote:
    this inflection, however, since they state in the specification that it is suitable for 1500-19000l pools, at 5000L it seemed appropriate

    If it is connected to the network all the time, it will probably work. But the hour of operation of this heater is about PLN 2. Assuming an optimistic version of the work 10 h / day x 20 days = 400 PLN.
    SledgehammerPL wrote:
    And I will make a solar heater, but I wanted to help myself on cloudy days ...

    The cheapest and fastest way to heat water with wood, namely waste from a sawmill or carpentry shop. In my region they are calling 50 PLN / m ?.
    On sunny days you will go on collectors.
    Electricity is the most expensive way to heat a pool.
  • #9 16577758
    technikabasenowa
    Level 33  
    Magister_123 wrote:
    Changing the pump to a weaker one will not change anything, you will simply have hotter water at the outlet but it will be correspondingly less.
    As for me, this heater is suitable for a pool of 500L max. Take interest in building simple solar collectors or a heat exchanger under which you can directly smoke https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2594299-420.html#15735899


    Without exaggeration. The smallest heaters, e.g. Pahlena, are from 3 kW - they will simply heat for longer. But the most important thing is to isolate the pool surface with foil - losses through surfaces are about 80-90%.
    Solar on cloudy days also work, but of course less efficiency
  • #10 16578051
    SledgehammerPL
    Level 9  
    After 10 hours of work - he really warmed up the pool - or about 10 degrees, unfortunately I do not know, but the difference is noticeable. So the device is working :D Now I have to buy solar and it will be ok :D Thanks to everyone for the advice and help. A hint for others - if the device does not work completely (e.g. the test does not work - it's worth checking if the capacitors have blown up. It is very difficult to replace them, but after replacement everything works as it should.
  • #11 16668420
    whiskey1983
    Level 11  
    Hello, heaters in a jacuzzi or in a swimming pool heat water by about 0.5-1 degree in an hour, provided you have the correct insulation of the basin, thermal cover, insulated casing. the heater can be checked by unscrewing the upper dome on the heater, you will find there:
    the pressure sensor
    flow sensor
    "heater tips"
    if the bathtub controller gives current to the heater, it probably works.
    To check the heater you would have to check it with an ohmmeter.

    The bathtub that I sell very rarely damages the heater.
  • #12 16669243
    jdubowski
    Tube devices specialist  
    whiskey1983 wrote:
    Jacuzzi or pool heaters heat water by about 0.5-1 degrees per hour


    It is difficult to agree with this statement, it all depends on the ratio of power to the pool capacity.
  • #13 16669445
    whiskey1983
    Level 11  
    jdubowski wrote:
    whiskey1983 wrote:
    Jacuzzi or pool heaters heat water by about 0.5-1 degrees per hour


    It is difficult to agree with this statement, it all depends on the ratio of power to the pool capacity.


    I offer about 200 models of bath tubs, garden tubs and swimming pools. and they all heat up as I wrote, :) I have not encountered in garden tubs with a heater larger than 3kw and in 4k pools, the heaters are nothing more than a simple heater inserted into a pipe with a section of about 50mm with a good pump, the water is not able to heat enough to heat up terribly.
  • #14 16669488
    technikabasenowa
    Level 33  
    whiskey1983 wrote:
    jdubowski wrote:
    whiskey1983 wrote:
    Jacuzzi or pool heaters heat water by about 0.5-1 degrees per hour


    It is difficult to agree with this statement, it all depends on the ratio of power to the pool capacity.


    I offer about 200 models of bath tubs, garden tubs and swimming pools. and they all heat up as I wrote, :) I have not encountered in garden tubs with a heater larger than 3kw and in 4k pools, the heaters are nothing more than a simple heater inserted into a pipe with a section of about 50mm with a good pump, the water is not able to heat enough to heat up terribly.


    Buddy, you have a weak offer :D there are heaters after 6kW - 9kW and pool heaters up to 36kW, not to mention that the unit is kW and not kw.
  • #15 16669943
    whiskey1983
    Level 11  
    technikabasenowa wrote:
    whiskey1983 wrote:
    jdubowski wrote:
    whiskey1983 wrote:
    Jacuzzi or pool heaters heat water by about 0.5-1 degrees per hour


    It is difficult to agree with this statement, it all depends on the ratio of power to the pool capacity.


    I offer about 200 models of bath tubs, garden tubs and swimming pools. and they all heat up as I wrote, :) I have not encountered in garden tubs with a heater larger than 3kw and in 4k pools, the heaters are nothing more than a simple heater inserted into a pipe with a section of about 50mm with a good pump, the water is not able to heat enough to heat up terribly.


    Buddy, you have a weak offer :D there are heaters after 6kW - 9kW and pool heaters up to 36kW, not to mention that the unit is kW and not kw.


    Unfortunately, the strongest Balboa manufactures is 5.5 kW, maybe some Chinese and 40 kW, but unfortunately I haven't seen reputable companies.
  • #16 16669954
    technikabasenowa
    Level 33  
    whiskey1983 wrote:
    maybe some Chinese does and 40 kW but unfortunately I have not seen reputable companies


    If Dapra, Behncke and Pahlen are not reputable, congratulations on professional knowledge :-)
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the functionality of a repaired Bestway 58259 pool water heater. The user inquires about the expected temperature increase after a short heating period, expressing concerns about the heater's effectiveness after purchasing it used and broken. Responses highlight the heater's power rating of 2.8 kW and its limitations in heating larger volumes of water, with estimates suggesting a temperature increase of 0.5 to 1.5 degrees Celsius per hour, depending on flow rates. Users recommend using a thermometer to measure temperature differences and emphasize the importance of proper insulation and potential solar heating solutions. The user later confirms that after 10 hours of operation, the heater successfully raised the pool temperature by approximately 10 degrees, indicating that the device is functioning correctly.
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