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Magnum MIG 200 MMA J: Transformer Burned, Wire Feeds Without Trigger

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  • #1 16598862
    piotrek_brt
    Level 3  
    Hello, yesterday, during welding, the flicker stopped welding, only the green LED glows, and as soon as it connects to the power supply, it pushes the wire immediately, even if the gun is not pressed. After removing the housing from one plate it smells of burning, and more precisely from this yellow transformer, maybe someone knows what to replace and where to look for parts?
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    #2 16599135
    Magister_123
    Level 36  
    Where do you store the migomat? You can clearly see traces of water on the tile (white spots) and that's where I would look ...
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  • #3 16601553
    piotrek_brt
    Level 3  
    The Migomat has always been in the garage but has recently been stored in the barn but it is dry there
  • #4 16854952
    kozi966
    Moderator of Electricians group
    Unlocked at the request of the author.
  • #5 16856500
    piotrek_brt
    Level 3  
    Hello Migomat, I was able to repair by buying a second PCB, I found a guest who is difficult to sell migomats and parts via the Internet, but the PCB cost me PLN 390, I bought it because I needed it, but by the way, I returned the old PCB to an electrician and he managed to repair it cost was PLN 150
  • #6 16856598
    Magister_123
    Level 36  
    @piotrek_brt the repairman gave the cause of the failure and what did he replace?
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  • #7 16876486
    piotrek_brt
    Level 3  
    Magister_123 wrote:
    @piotrek_brt the repairman gave the cause of the failure and what did he replace?


    No, but I can find out
  • #8 18027975
    Juraj 78
    Level 1  
    piotrek_brt wrote:
    Hello Migomat, I was able to repair by buying a second PCB, I found a guest who is difficult to sell migomats and parts via the Internet, but the PCB cost me PLN 390, I bought it because I needed it, but by the way, I returned the old PCB to an electrician and he managed to repair it cost was PLN 150


    Hi
    can you give me a contalt on oprave?
  • #9 18675815
    macieej47
    Level 17  
    Did you maybe find out? I have the same
  • #10 18681470
    master250
    Level 22  
    There was probably damage in the wire feed regulation circuit, in order to find out what is damaged, measurements must be made
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  • #11 18684120
    piotrek_brt
    Level 3  
    I do not have contact with this electrician anymore, but the replacement of this plate or repair has helped migomat so far it welds nicely but first try to remove this plate and take it to an electrician, let him check it, unless I open my own and see where it was soldered
  • #12 18684166
    robokop
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    master250 wrote:
    to find out what is damaged, you need to take measurements
    Yes, necessarily. Only what?


    The fault in these Chinese is standard - a short mosfet transistor keying the feeder power supply - https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3396853.html
  • #13 19512390
    corpha76lon
    Level 12  
    Hello, I recently burned such a migrate and initially the inverter turned out to be a defect, the keying transistor was burnt ... But after the replacement, the flash fired, the display lit up, but after a while it went out and started to freak out with the feeder ... So I replaced both motor drive transistors but after restarting it again for a moment, then after a few seconds the same symptom ... It turns out that these transistors are burning ... I checked the elements from this area on the board, but none of them show signs of piercing ... Before them all of them will start to desolder, maybe one of you will tell you what could be the reason? I will be very grateful for any help

    PS In the diagrams I see differences in the use of these mosfets, on the P channel they use IRF9z24 and IRF9540, I inserted the IRF9540 (someone has already repaired it and walked on IRF9640)
    In turn, on the N channel IRFZ44, (he was on IRF640) I put IRF540



    FIXED!

    So, in my case, the converter fell, i.e. practically all the elements on it:
    VT3 - 2SK3878 (there is one in my version)
    U3 - UC3842
    U4 - PC817
    R48 - 10R
    R50 - 10K
    R51 - 1R
    R52 - 1R
    R57 - 1R

    When repairing it, I forgot to replace the U3 Optocoupler, which caused me a lot of blood ... As a result, there was a double voltage at the output of the transformer and the rest of the elements were burning, mainly the transistor from the wire feeder, and then the capacitors exploded ...
    I hope someone will find my experience useful ;)

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a malfunction in the Magnum MIG 200 MMA J welding machine, where the user reports that the device stopped welding and the wire feed operates continuously without the trigger being pressed. A burning smell was detected from the yellow transformer. Responses suggest potential causes, including water damage and issues with the wire feed regulation circuit. One user successfully repaired their machine by replacing the PCB, while another mentioned that the failure could be due to a short in the mosfet transistor controlling the feeder power supply. Various components, including IRF9z24, IRF9540, and IRFZ44 transistors, were discussed in relation to repairs.
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