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MAGNUM MIG-MMA 220W IGBT Gas Flow Delay After Welding

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  • #1 17348791
    metallhead
    Level 10  
    Hello. I just bought a MAGNUM MIG-MMA 220W IGBT migomat and noticed that after welding (the button was released), gas was still coming out for a good second or two. This is a waste of spot welding! Is it possible to accelerate the closing of the gas supply valve in this blinker? I would be grateful for your advice.
    MAGNUM MIG-MMA 220W IGBT Gas Flow Delay After Welding
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  • #2 17351953
    noopS
    Level 18  
    It is possible to change the value of a certain resistor in the RC circuit for the holding time of the solenoid opening. The question is whether you want to do it, because if you have a new device, you will lose the warranty
  • #3 17352652
    metallhead
    Level 10  
    So normal regulation - some potentiometer - does not have ?? Because it is annoying - such a delayed shutdown of this valve. I would not like to lose my warranty, but as long as you have patience, you can explain which resistor it is because if I finally get damned, I will have to do it!
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  • #4 17352673
    noopS
    Level 18  
    You have to measure - I don't remember exactly which one.
    But I processed such a migomat for the guy who welded the gratings and he wanted to quickly disconnect the gas after welding - so it is certainly possible
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  • #5 17354526
    stasiekb100
    Level 29  
    Insert photos of the board, I will tell you where to put the resistor.
  • #6 17354724
    Krzysztof Reszka
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    metallhead wrote:
    I would not like to lose my guarantee

    Think carefully. Any interference is a loss of warranty.
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  • #7 17360245
    metallhead
    Level 10  
    @ stasiekb100 Is a photo on this side enough or on the other side too? I will post a better quality tomorrow. The two red wires are bent over from the solenoid valve.
    MAGNUM MIG-MMA 220W IGBT Gas Flow Delay After Welding


    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    Krzysztof Reszka wrote:
    metallhead wrote:
    I would not like to lose my guarantee

    Think carefully. Any interference is a loss of warranty.
    I know, I know, but maybe I'll have to make up my mind. Thanks for caring.

    Added after 12 [hours] 32 [minutes]:

    @ stasiekb100 now I put pictures of better quality
    MAGNUM MIG-MMA 220W IGBT Gas Flow Delay After Welding

    MAGNUM MIG-MMA 220W IGBT Gas Flow Delay After Welding

    if other photos are needed, it is enough to say.
  • #8 17361515
    stasiekb100
    Level 29  
    Good pictures, I know this board, but in it I changed the igbt switch-off current, the gas always worked properly.
  • #9 17362535
    metallhead
    Level 10  
    @ stasiekb100 The gas can and works properly, but I am annoyed by the delay with which its supply closes after releasing the button in the handle. In my opinion it is way too big. With spot welding, it will practically come out all the time! And that is what I would like to avoid.
  • #10 17362629
    stasiekb100
    Level 29  
    A 1k resistor between the source and the gate can be installed on the gas mosfet. If this does not help, something needs to be changed with the 358 amplifier.
  • #11 17366508
    metallhead
    Level 10  
    @ stasiekb100 and can you explain so more vividly in which place ??
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  • #13 17835415
    patryk-84a
    Level 28  
    Rid up the topic. I have a question, how is this Mig doing for you? I am looking for an opinion from someone who has and uses it.
  • #14 17835790
    metallhead
    Level 10  
    The welder is working well so far, I am satisfied. For my homework, it is perfectly sufficient. I am only annoyed by the problem I wrote about at the beginning - I haven't rummaged in it yet.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the MAGNUM MIG-MMA 220W IGBT migomat, specifically addressing the issue of gas flow delay after welding. Users express frustration over the prolonged gas release after the welding button is released, which is seen as wasteful, especially during spot welding. Suggestions for resolving the issue include modifying the resistor in the RC circuit to adjust the solenoid's holding time, although this may void the warranty. Users discuss potential modifications, such as adding a 1k resistor between the source and gate of the gas MOSFET and altering the 358 amplifier settings. The conversation also includes requests for circuit board images to identify the correct components for modification. Overall, while some users are satisfied with the welder's performance, the gas delay remains a significant concern.
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