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Fiat Seicento 2003 (1108 cm3, 40kW) - No Spark & Fuel Issues: Replaced Shaft Sensor, Coils & Relays

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    sadek1979
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    As in the topic Fiat Seicento 2003 1108 cm3 40kw engine. The owner parked the car in front of the house, it was not possible to start it in the morning. No spark, fuel pump (new) delivers fuel. So far, the shaft sensor has been replaced - new (on the gear wheel at the right wheel), checked fuses under the steering wheel and fuses behind the battery. Two relays behind the battery changed. Still no spark and candles dry. The car will stay for about half an hour, turning the starter will fire for about 1 second and then only turning will go out and no response. Coils also replaced. Shaft rotation can be seen on the computer, errors are coil # 1 error and coil # 2 error. Erases mistakes after shooting again fall. After turning on the key, the inscription code appears and goes out. The car also does not smoke with pride. I am asking for your hints regarding the defect. best regards
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    spinacz
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    I understand that the coils have a constant + 12V and there is no mass keying? How it looks like a damaged ECU in the coil control tracks.
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    mysz777
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    I warmly welcome .
    As a colleague Paperclip wrote the voltage on the coil to be checked first, then to ring the cables between the ECU and the coils and between the ECU and the crankshaft sensor. Unfortunately, incident beams do happen in this model.
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    What's up in Immo?
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    2003 is already MPI? If so then it looks like a typical ECU failure. With both coils failing, there is no chance that it will ignite. Has an LPG installation?
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    sadek1979
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    The topic is overwhelmed. Engine control unit 100 percent damaged. Inside damaged tracks and a burning smell. Thank you for your advice.

    I sent a request to the moderator to unlock the topic because the situation is the same after replacing the driver. An interesting fact is that after disconnecting the camshaft sensor, the car starts, drives and has power. When the car fires, you can install a sensor or drive without it. When the sensor is connected, there is no chance of firing. I will add that the sensor is replaced with a new one and another used, functional. Do your friends have any hints ??? Best regards .
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    spinacz
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    The problem with the coils is gone? If, after unfastening one reader, the car fires and not on both, it is necessary to check the timing if it did not jump.
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    sadek1979
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    the timing was checked correctly, on the marks. The problem with the coils occurs when the above-mentioned sensor is connected. This car probably works against the law of physics he he.
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    What kind of driver do you have there? You have a shaft and shaft sensor right?
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    Fiat Seicento 2003 (1108 cm3, 40kW) - No Spark & Fuel Issues: Replaced Shaft Sensor, Coils & Relays
    This driver is in the car. The shaft sensor at the bottom of the gear wheel was replaced with a new one. No effect. Replaced the shaft sensor on the top of the 3-pin motor with no effect. There was still a spark in the car for two seconds and silence. After turning on the ignition, the pump gave fuel, but the candles were dry, the injectors did not open. After disconnecting the shaft sensor on the top of the engine, the seicento fires, drives it has power. After firing, you can put the sensor on and there is no difference. The car does not burn on the sensor. At the moment, the owner drives with the sensor disconnected, but I would like to finish, because there is a bit of guerrilla warfare.

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    Fiat Seicento 2003 (1108 cm3, 40kW) - No Spark & Fuel Issues: Replaced Shaft Sensor, Coils & Relays
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    andrzej20001
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    Wedge at the bottom not "kicked"? physically take it out.
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    spinacz
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    There must be something wrong with the up and down synchronization as my colleague writes above, I do not see another option.
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    sadek1979
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    The car has not returned, it rides with the sensor detached, thank you for your suggestions.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around a 2003 Fiat Seicento with a 1108 cm3 engine that is experiencing starting issues characterized by no spark and dry spark plugs despite a functioning fuel pump. The owner has replaced the shaft sensor, ignition coils, and relays, and checked fuses, but the problem persists. Responses suggest checking the voltage at the coils, inspecting the ECU for damage, and verifying the synchronization between the crankshaft and camshaft sensors. Notably, the car starts when the camshaft sensor is disconnected, indicating a potential fault with the sensor or ECU. The owner is currently driving the vehicle with the sensor disconnected while seeking a permanent solution.
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