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[Solved] Fiat Seicento 1.1 MPI Timing Issue: Replacing Belt, Water Pump & Tensioner - Spark Problems

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  • #1 17507473
    Katamek
    Level 6  
    Hello, I have a small problem, it seems to me that the timing setting is wrong.
    I wanted to replace the belt, water pump and tensioner. But, unfortunately, instead of marking myself immediately before downloading everything, the wise me did not mark anything.
    I set it on signs But I guess he just doesn't have the spark.
    New wires and candles.
    Twists, twists and turns. It won't even catch.
    Will you help? Perhaps I set these signs as needed
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  • #2 17507490
    11111olo
    Level 42  
    Katamek wrote:
    I put on signs

    The correct setting is such that the notch on the camshaft wheel is at 9 coincided with the mark on the crate.

    If so and the car does not burn, check if you have connected the shaft position sensor and other ones that you had to disconnect.
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  • #3 17507497
    Katamek
    Level 6  
    I mean, where should the mark on the chest be? Also a scrap? I agree on the valves, but on the box it seems to me that they are not. Maybe some hmm. Photos?
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    #4 17507519
    11111olo
    Level 42  
    You have a rubber cover on the chest. It may be difficult to see because it has become overgrown with dirt.
    It is located "under the coils" - on the box, of course, much lower. It has a rectangular shape.
    You have to exercise a little to see the incision - it's on the handwheel.
    Fiat Seicento 1.1 MPI Timing Issue: Replacing Belt, Water Pump & Tensioner - Spark Problems
    Photo upside down :D
  • #5 17507534
    Katamek
    Level 6  
    I just found But with me there's only some dart there. In what position is she supposed to be? How I was looking on the net. They are there in a different timing than I have ..
    And now the question. If they coincide with the marks on the valves and the shaft .. Then you can't see anything on the flywheel. If the adjustments on the flywheel do not match my shaft
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    #6 17507554
    11111olo
    Level 42  
    It should be set up as I wrote. Remove the belt and position it as it should, and attach the belt with the mark so that it is in line with the notch in the circle. Then turn the shaft several times and when the mark on the belt coincides with the notch in the circle, the mark on the box should be set to 0 °.
  • #7 17507560
    Katamek
    Level 6  
    My belt is without markings. Okay, I'll set some photos in a moment and send it as is.
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    #8 17507807
    11111olo
    Level 42  
    Set it up and check it out. If you turn the shaft 2x and the signs match, it should fire.
    This engine is collision-free (it's an advantage in a way), otherwise you would have nothing to set up, only an expensive renovation.
  • #9 17507844
    Katamek
    Level 6  
    Everything was well positioned.
    The cause was a misaligned shaft position sensor. Everything burns nicely. And the timing was set correctly the first time. So even if it was a collision kit, I wouldn't break anything
  • #10 17507853
    Katamek
    Level 6  
    Everything was well positioned.
    The cause was a misaligned shaft position sensor. Everything burns nicely. And the timing was set correctly the first time. So even if it was a collision kit, I wouldn't break anything

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Shaft position sensor misaligned.
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The discussion revolves around a timing issue with a Fiat Seicento 1.1 MPI after the user attempted to replace the timing belt, water pump, and tensioner without marking the original positions. The user suspected incorrect timing settings leading to a lack of spark despite having new wires and spark plugs. Responses provided guidance on aligning the camshaft wheel and checking the shaft position sensor. Ultimately, the user resolved the issue by correctly aligning the shaft position sensor, confirming that the timing was initially set correctly and that the engine is collision-free, preventing any damage during the process.
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