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Antistatic Headband: Worth it for Electronics Beginners? Grounding & Protecting Integrated Circuits

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  • #1 16626583
    Neoxis
    Level 9  
    Hello.
    I am taking my first steps in the world of electronics and one question bothers me. Is there sense to use an anti-static wristband when I do not have a grounding in the soldering iron, socket or anti-static mat? For now, I place circuits mainly on a contact plate, sometimes it solders, but I would not like to destroy any integrated circuits.
    Thanks for the help.
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  • #2 16626604
    SERVICE-AV
    Level 39  
    You won't destroy anything, you would have to walk in a wool sweater and recharge yourself to shoot sparks a few centimeters ;)
    ESD is important in specific areas of electronics, in home gouging will not affect the elements.
    Of course, if you do not electrify yourself as stated above ;)
  • #3 16626610
    Neoxis
    Level 9  
    I read a book recently and it was written that CMOS chips are very sensitive to lightning, hence my fear ;)
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  • #4 16626705
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    I have replaced CMOS circuits many times without taking the recommended precautions. There was no damage.
  • #5 16626742
    60jarek
    Level 28  
    Everything until I bought a self-adhesive felt for everything .....
    Unfortunately, a few times the electrostatic charge damaged my equipment and transistors and it costs I avoid electrostatic clothing, it doesn't always have the effect. In my opinion, the electrostatic band does not work well, it can be a cause of short circuit etc. during operation it may cause electric shock. Or faradaj cage and grounding and zeroing prevention. When I electrify it strongly, it unloads when the radiator touches it sharply. Most circuits and transistors now have internal protection in the past that manufacturers did not use the 90s massacre, the seller took his fingers from the gold and the chip.
    A skilfully used headband will always protect you from intentional damage, but remember zeroing and grounding is the basis and I would not underestimate this. I think that in home conditions it is not very successful to work in laboratory conditions, but all clothing is grounded. A long argument, but it's true. Avoid carpets and clothing that is easy to electrify. Here, it is unlikely to pass the test, in my opinion, let others say a few things when I used zeroing and grounding fuse the best protection and pad rubber rug and do not repair electronics on a hangover or after alcohol.
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  • #6 16626758
    398216 Usunięty
    Level 43  
    Neoxis wrote:
    Is there sense to use an anti-static wristband when I do not have a grounding in the soldering iron, socket or anti-static mat?
    And what if you ground yourself with a band and the soldering iron will have a puncture (if supplied from 230VAC)?
    Is there any sense in using the band .... You can go to Kasprowy in the right shoes, and you can in sandals. The thing is that the sandals more often do not get where they intended.
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  • #7 16626768
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    398216 Usunięty wrote:
    ... And what if you ground yourself with a band and the soldering iron will have a puncture (if supplied from 230VAC)?
    ...

    Then properly used band will cause paralysis and even death. So that there is no shock I use a separating transformer and it really makes sense. And the band with a snagging cable only disturbs and sooner or later the user will throw it in the bin.
  • #8 16626825
    398216 Usunięty
    Level 43  
    DiZMar wrote:
    Then properly used band will cause paralysis and even death.
    This was a rhetorical question addressed to the author of the topic - I stuck a link with his question for a reason. Of course it bothers you ... until you get used to it :) . Personally, I had the "pleasure" of static charge of a CD laser several times. Since then, I follow certain procedures - it pays off.
  • #9 17200400
    keseszel
    Level 26  
    Such small excavations .. ? I recommend an antistatic wristband from my own experience. Unfortunately, it "sows" discharges and the equipment died a few times during repairs. It is possible that this is due to clothing, but I do not intend to wonder if the socks I have put on are the reason for the sparks ?. The small cost, and greater certainty.
  • #10 17200429
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    And so on a related topic. There used to be a lot of cars with "tails" or belts that unload loads from a car so that the car would not "kick" during disembarkation. I also had a "tail" next to my car and still sometimes the car kept kicking me. Currently, this fashion for these "petioles" probably passed, because the exception with which it is. I don't have any of them anymore and it doesn't happen that anyone "kicks me". What has changed that these grounding straps are superfluous?
    PS.
    I also don't use an anti-static wristband when working in a workshop.
  • #11 17200488
    Justyniunia
    Level 36  
    I sometimes use to replace white LED SMD in "bulbs" and tapes.
    During the exchange they can light up and get damaged.
    And this is not electrostatics in my case.
  • #12 17202701
    jarek_lnx
    Level 43  
    It all depends on what conditions you work in, in winter when the humidity in the rooms is low there is a greater risk, and if there is a carpet on the floor in the workplace, or even better - cheap plastic office chairs, sparks jump on 5mm, I once read that such chairs generate considerable RFI interference due to internal discharges.
    If we have such "ESD" boosters, there is a good chance of damaging something, of course, a person approaches the chip for 2 PLN differently (just remember to equalize the potential before touching) and differently for 200 PLN (then I remember where the band lies)

    60jarek wrote:
    Most circuits and transistors now have internal protection in the past that manufacturers did not use the 90s massacre, the seller took his fingers from the gold and the chip.
    There is no such option when he took the element wrapped in conductive film in his hand, equalized the potentials and after unpacking there was no more voltage difference. Only when given to the client there was a click :)
    Small MOSFETs (even BSS138) are still very sensitive to ESD and here it is really worth having anti-ESD equipment, large MOSFETs are no longer sensitive because despite the lack of protection it is not easy to cause high voltage with a load that a human has. Scalaki have had security for a very long time.

    Probably the "human factor" also matters, from my practice it appears that ESD damage is a very rare case - maybe once every few years, while on labs in technical school CMOS chips were exchanged twice a day (I did for service), but it is known pupil has almost magical power to spoil everything he touches ;)

Topic summary

The discussion centers around the necessity of using an antistatic wristband for electronics beginners, particularly when working with sensitive components like CMOS chips. Several participants express that while electrostatic discharge (ESD) can be a concern, the risk of damaging components in a home environment is relatively low unless specific conditions, such as low humidity or certain types of flooring, are present. Some users share personal experiences of working without precautions and not encountering issues, while others emphasize the importance of grounding and proper handling techniques. Concerns are raised about the potential dangers of using a wristband improperly, especially if connected to a soldering iron that is not properly isolated. Overall, opinions vary on the effectiveness and necessity of antistatic measures in casual electronics work.
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