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Connecting Single Phase Solar Inverter to Two-Phase House: Bi-Directional Meter Accuracy

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  • #1 16629445
    faktorXL
    Level 7  
    hello gentlemen and ladies

    I have a photovoltaic installation recently. I have two phases connected to the house. Separate phase to the first floor and separately to the ground floor. Single phase inverter. I have the inverter installed in the boiler room connected to a vase that goes to the ground floor. I have a 3-phase installation only in the outbuilding. I have a meter mounted on an outbuilding

    My question is whether the bi-directional counter will count correctly.
    I heard that in this case the meter may distort to my disadvantage (he will take more electricity from PGE than he gave them back) in the end result I will have to pay extra for electricity. I just ask serious answers from the silly bases :)
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  • #2 16629461
    theo33
    Level 27  
    If your meter has phase-to-phase balancing, it should indicate correctly regardless of which phase it is connected to and whether (it will take more power from PGE than it gave it back) it also depends on the production and the load.
    Read about balancing and what meter model do you have?
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  • #3 16630065
    faktorXL
    Level 7  
    I have a counter like in the picture. I have heard and read about phase-to-phase balancing. but the more I read, the more I have doubts about whether it works well for me. I have a 2.5 kv installation

    Connecting Single Phase Solar Inverter to Two-Phase House: Bi-Directional Meter Accuracy
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  • #4 16630088
    prose
    Level 35  
    I have the same and do not balance.
  • #5 16630169
    Tech132
    Level 28  
    Switch the building over to one phase and after a problem, or write down the meter and check if it balances.
  • #6 16630964
    faktorXL
    Level 7  
    I'm not an electrician I attach a poor diagram to you as I have all this installation connected to the network. Once again I will say that I am not an electrician, that's why the schematic diagram of connecting the house and solar installation looks like Connecting Single Phase Solar Inverter to Two-Phase House: Bi-Directional Meter Accuracy Connecting Single Phase Solar Inverter to Two-Phase House: Bi-Directional Meter Accuracy

    how do I break it like in Figure 2 will it work ??

    because as I have it now it doesn't work well

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    Tech132 wrote:
    Switch the building over to one phase and after a problem, or write down the meter and check if it balances.


    already checked does not balance. I even got a bill from PGE, I called the area after a few days, he called me back and said that in fact the installation was not working properly and I had to talk to the installer and he bounces the ball and claims that the area wrongly connected the meter myself I need to center who does me in h. ..... a.
  • #7 16631026
    Jan_Werbinski
    Level 33  
    Switch all energy consumers and inverters to one phase. Watch the use of high power devices such as household appliances. If it turns out that you are exceeding power and protection pops up, it means that you have overdone and you have to spread the use over time or use some devices on a phase without solar energy. It is best to give everything that is non-stop and is low power per phase with PV, and only occasionally used for the others. In this way you eliminate the effect of no balancing.
  • #8 16631071
    faktorXL
    Level 7  
    If I swell in the fuse box, what do I have in the workshop (I have the cable pulled from the house from it), will it be romping? Do I have to unpin in a chest at home? (I have one phase with fuses at the bottom and the second phase goes up) All household appliances at the top have only lighting, computer and TV nothing else will burden the phase.
    if I hook in the chest in the workshop, then to the counter, then it will go from one phase (I speak well) and to the house too?

    I don't know if I can figure it all out: / if you are not an electrician
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  • #9 16631184
    Jan_Werbinski
    Level 33  
    It will be if you do not exceed the load of circuits and protections, and you only have single-phase receivers. For example, it is enough for me to run three larger devices on one phase at the same time for the fuse to trip.
  • #10 16631386
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    faktorXL wrote:
    if you are not an electrician

    This is not a rummage. An electrician will not take much for such a switch. And you and your family will be safe.
  • #11 16631397
    Leon444
    Level 26  
    kortyleski wrote:
    faktorXL wrote:
    if you are not an electrician

    This is not a rummage. An electrician will not take much for such a switch. And you and your family will be safe.


    support :)
    And additionally I will say (but this is only my opinion) that it makes no sense to switch everything to one phase even if we do not have phase balancing in the meter, we load one circuit terribly, it is not a flat in a block, the house has a more extensive installation, after someone has appliances in the garage larger or an electric stove, they will not do everything in one phase.
    With the six-month balancing that is now in the Act, I am surprised even that the subject is still rolled out ...
    The total profit is not great and the possibility of overloading the installation is huge ...
  • #12 16631562
    Jan_Werbinski
    Level 33  
    One phase is not one circuit. You can switch if someone knows how many washing machines at a time can work. You need to know the basics. User profit is a 25% bonus on every kWh consumed directly.
    Profit for society means reducing the load on transmission networks.
    If he can't, he will learn or spoil it and let the electrician earn.
  • #13 16631611
    Leon444
    Level 26  
    As for me, this is not in line with art and more is to lose than to gain because as you can see from users' accounts, everyone seems to plus half-year balancing, and at night you still draw electricity from the network ...
    Whatever :) let everyone do as they like, a free country :) I have a meter that balances me and three-phase devices :) after that I watched those burned home switchboards and not only on "electrician not ticking" on FB ... :)
  • #14 16632387
    Jan_Werbinski
    Level 33  
    There is no such thing as "annual balancing" in the context of the interphase balancing conversation. You have been mistaken for the statutory discount.
    You have a balancing meter and advise you how to fill the hungry.
  • #15 16632456
    Leon444
    Level 26  
    But I didn't write anywhere about annual balancing.
    I wrote six months ...
  • #16 16632904
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #17 16644005
    faktorXL
    Level 7  
    thanks to colleagues how will everything be advised. I connected the house to one phase and see how everything will work

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the challenges of connecting a single-phase solar inverter to a two-phase household electrical system. The main concern is the accuracy of a bi-directional meter in measuring electricity consumption and production, particularly whether it may inaccurately report higher consumption than actual due to phase imbalance. Participants suggest that if the meter has phase-to-phase balancing, it should function correctly, but doubts arise regarding its effectiveness in the user's specific setup. Recommendations include consolidating all energy consumers to one phase to avoid imbalance issues and monitoring high-power devices to prevent overloads. The conversation also touches on the implications of annual or semi-annual balancing and the potential for increased costs if the system is not configured properly.
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