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Electric Flap Control for Basement: 2.6x0.9m Ash Wood,100-120kg, Self-Locking, Dual Access, Hinges

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  • #1 16640925
    m.zych
    Level 9  
    Hi,

    I need to make an electrical control for a cellar flap.

    Flap measuring 2.6 x 0.9 metres. Made of ash wood with a polystyrene insert, the pre-calculated weight of the flap will be in the range of 100-120 kg.
    The flap is to be a closure between the pantry and the entrance to the cellar, you can see this in the photo:
    Electric Flap Control for Basement: 2.6x0.9m Ash Wood,100-120kg, Self-Locking, Dual Access, Hinges

    The photo shows in red where the hinges will be installed.

    The flap is to be opened and closed electrically from two locations: the pantry side and the basement side. It is also important that the mechanism is self-locking when opened, i.e. that the flap does not fall on someone's head, e.g. in the event of a power failure/component failure. The whole thing should open quite smoothly (a subjective term, but I would not like to wait, for example, 60 seconds for it to be possible to enter).

    I am considering two solutions:
    1. an electric motor mounted above the hinges and, using rollers, a cable that would be mounted from the top of the flap. Opening and closing would be done by winding the cable onto a roller. The opening and closing is performed by winding the cable onto a roller.
    2. a linear actuator mounted on the underside of the flap. From what I have looked at the specifications, there are actuators that are self-locking.

    As I don't have much practical experience in designing such solutions, I would be grateful for any suggestions on how to solve the problem and for help in selecting components. Or does anyone have any other ideas/concepts for implementing this?

    Best regards
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  • #2 16641158
    DriverMSG
    Admin of Computers group
    m.zych wrote:
    2.6 x 0.9 meter flap
    The height of the room allows it to be raised vertically?
    Isn't it better to make it open sideways to the left wall (if it is not a load-bearing wall)?
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  • #3 16641175
    Zbigniew 400
    Level 38  
    It is necessary to perform balancing the damper's weight / safety / and to overcome only friction forces.
    That is, manual opening and closing.
    Emergency opening option.
    The actuator may be weaker.
    Cable system with weight or spring as in fast gates.
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  • #4 16641295
    zola3
    Level 15  
    Or maybe a roller blind / roller shutter would be suitable.
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  • #5 16641353
    Zbigniew 400
    Level 38  
    You can also move the entire hatch horizontally.
  • #6 16644204
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #7 21747120
    mw1983marcin
    Level 24  
    Medium answer. There are other aspects, like space, like visual considerations. Making such a flap is not a problem. An extendable actuator, a lifting arm for the flap. And in case of a power outage or failure you grab the flap and lift it up manually.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the design and implementation of an electric flap control system for a basement damper measuring 2.6 x 0.9 meters, constructed from ash wood with a foam polystyrene insert, weighing between 100-120 kg. The flap is intended to serve as a closure between a pantry and the basement entrance, with the requirement for dual access control from both locations. Key considerations include ensuring the flap is self-locking to prevent accidental closure during power outages, and achieving smooth operation without excessive delay. Suggestions include balancing the damper's weight, using a cable system with weights or springs, and exploring alternative designs such as roller shutters or horizontal movement mechanisms. Some participants recommend avoiding a flap altogether in favor of a wall or door solution.
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