[Solved] Best Automatic Device for 225cmx160cm Double-Leaf Gate: Steel Profile & Railing Options

Hello colleagues on the forum.
I am asking for suggestions regarding the selection of automation for a double-leaf gate with a leaf size of 225 cm and a height of 160 cm. Gate leaf made of steel profile and railing. The distance of the hinge to the edge of the post is 15 cm.
Best regards.

As far as I know, in the Faac G-bat 300 the 452MPS control panel has additional inputs 22, 23, 24, 25 to which you can probably connect limit switches.
So if the author can have a central stop to close the gate and he doesn't want a stop to open, these entrances could be used and simple switches to stop the gate could be installed.
Can these inputs fulfill such a function?

kyfe wrote:

. BFT PHOBOS BT A40 (24 V with limit switches)

I would take this set. In my area, tested in strong winds, properly programmed, they can handle such gates. The downside is that opening and closing the gate is a bit slow compared to other drives.

A good note from an anonymous advisor If the gate does not have a central mechanical stop, only the electric gate is closed all the time and will swing in the wind. If you have a stop at least the middle gate is pressed against the stop and sits rigidly.
The inputs 22 to 25 in the FACC 452mps control panel are actually limit switches, but it is worth calling the manufacturer or distributor how they work and then you do not need to have stoppers on the opening.
Alternatively, experienced people will say whether the opening of the g-bat 300 can stop at the maximum opening without damaging the actuators.

I would like to use the bumper in the middle as the final position of the closed gate. Worse is the bumpers on the opening because one of them would have to be installed in the place where the path from the gate runs. The solution may be what was written by gadek80, but whether the position of the actuator opening to the maximum will not affect their service life? This is a question for experienced installers. Thank you for all the advice and best regards.

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will not affect their viability?

There will be, although the thread on the bolt ends a bit early and the plastic piston nut stops on those unfinished threads (and theoretically it can jam), but we used a lot of drives this way and they all show no signs of jamming or wear of the nut. It is possible to "tune" the actuator by placing a thick washer in the gap between the nut and the drive sleeve (see photo) - and then the nut will rest elegantly with its entire forehead against this washer.



Only that the exact selection of assembly dimensions for such an opening is quite difficult and requires many fittings.

And can the inputs of the 22 to 25 switches in the 452mps control panel connected to the contactor stop the gate?
Possibly another vital actuator with a bumper in the middle.

My friend.
The BFT PHOBOS actuator has built-in adjustable stop switches for opening and closing, so you don't need any side stops except the middle one, unless you have the gate open for half a day, and yes, the wind can damage something.

I have a question for dzolo35. In the closed position, from what I read, 230 V actuators close the gate with a certain force and stop. Is it possible to set the BFT PHOBOS actuator in the closed position with a similar effect, i.e. door stiffness?

Hello.
This set will probably include the THALIA control unit and it controls the PHOBOS BT actuators.
If you buy a set with this control unit, you have the option of keeping the closing lock (you need a gate closing limiter), or set the closing limit switch at the actuator accordingly.
The best thing to do is to download the programming manual for the BFT THALIA control unit and look at the options, what and how can be set.

kyfe wrote:

Is it possible to set the BFT PHOBOS actuator in the closed position with a similar effect, i.e. door stiffness?

Yes, it is possible with the THALIA switchboard.

While searching for a suitable drive, I came across the description of the FAAC GENIUS G-BAT 400 actuator: "Built-in limit switch in the actuator - NO (requires a ground-mounted bumper)". The set includes only a bumper in the middle of the gate. limit in this actuator?

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Built-in limit switch in the actuator - NONE (requires a ground-mounted bumper) ".

Well, after all, they wrote that NONE! Only the buffer in the ground can be used.

Of course, my oversight, but in fact the power of auto-suggestion and willingness to find the best solution . In the Thalia control panel, it is actually possible to adjust the closing position of the gate with the pressure against the central stop.
I add a picture of my gate: .
I would like to ask my colleagues at what height is it best to mount the actuator? The bottom metal profile is about 30 cm high and it seems a bit too low to me. And most importantly FAAC 414 or BFT PHOBOS BT A40?
Thank you for all the hints.

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In the Thalia control panel, it is actually possible to adjust the closing position of the gate with the pressure against the central stop

But then the electric limit switches do not work, i.e. the central stop is then necessary.

In your situation, most of the advantages favor the BFT - lightweight gate, so the low-noise 24V Phobos actuators are better suited. They also have a much more culturally active redundancy and a lot of added value - anti-crush (in 414 only in a paid option and it works a bit cajmer).
414 are "gniotsa not break" actuators, maintenance-free, for heavy gates, but clunky and with a low work culture - let's say a large gate at a farmer who hangs, how it works to work without looking (they also have a second ecological niche - heavy gates in tenement houses in the old construction industry - the so-called rental ones - they can do it without any problems, they are much cheaper than professional motors for heavy gates, and the culture of work or some extra options the community does not care about - it has to open and close as long as possible, CHEAP, no breakdowns and that's it).

Theoretically, it is best to mount the actuator exactly in the middle of the leaf height - but if your gate is not twisted and fairly stiff (i.e. when pushing the bottom to the stop of both wings, the top will not break apart), then you can mount it to the bottom crossbar.

I finally bought the BFT PHOBOS BT A40, now it's time for assembly