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Correct Supply Voltage for Shaft Position Sensor in AUDI A6 C6 3.0 tdi BMK

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  • #1 16641901
    koszynek
    Level 12  
    Hello, I have a question about the supply of shaft sensor in the above described model. From what I measured it reaches 2.54 v. A request for a hint as to the correct supply voltage for this sensor. The sensor, of course, replaced, the fault still active is manifested by a difficulty in starting the engine. Regards.
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  • #2 16642145
    paszczakq
    Level 27  
    Or maybe this invention on 4-5 chains (timing) has already reached out so much that nothing fits together?
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  • #3 16642191
    koszynek
    Level 12  
    I take this into account, however, before I remove the engine, I want to rule out other causes. That is why I repeat the question about supplying the shaft position sensor, the logic of the sensor is inductive and it should get 12v. Waiting for a hint.
  • #4 16642230
    paszczakq
    Level 27  
    Sooner 5V. But I do not want to mislead. Optional error reading remains maybe elsewhere is the cause.
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  • #5 16642829
    koszynek
    Level 12  
    5v is the supply for hall sensors, in this case the camshaft sensor is powered. The sensor on the crankshaft is an inductive sensor.
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    #6 16676292
    -kris-
    Level 14  
    Correct Supply Voltage for Shaft Position Sensor in AUDI A6 C6 3.0 tdi BMK

    it's possible that this will help you, - crankshaft is a crankshaft position and speed sensor
  • #7 16676446
    Pawel wawa
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    The induction sensor does not check the power supply voltage. Probably still measured on the unfastened ankle. You can check this sensor with an oscilloscope or a LED. It will be better to measure the sensor resistance by measuring everything on the controller connector, you check the beam by the way, than the voltage on the cube. :)
  • #8 18393525
    adrian230492
    Level 1  
    Hello, will someone suggest exactly where to look for the sensor?
  • #9 18393930
    koszynek
    Level 12  
    Pawel wawa wrote:
    The induction sensor does not check the power supply voltage. Probably still measured on an unfastened ankle. You can check this sensor with an oscilloscope or a LED. It will be better to measure the sensor resistance by measuring everything on the controller connector, you check the beam by the way, than the voltage on the cube. :)
    The induction sensor is also powered, it is also required to check the correctness of the power supply. Usually it is a voltage around 5 Volts without a load which is an inductive sensor.
  • #10 18394526
    lukashb
    Level 39  
    koszynek wrote:
    Pawel wawa wrote:
    The induction sensor does not check the power supply voltage. Probably still measured on an unfastened ankle. You can check this sensor with an oscilloscope or a LED. It will be better to measure the sensor resistance by measuring everything on the controller connector, you check the beam by the way, than the voltage on the cube. :)
    The induction sensor is also powered, it is also required to check the correctness of the power supply. Usually it is a voltage around 5 Volts without a load which is an inductive sensor.
    I have not met. So far. The induction sensor itself generated pulses, without any DC component present on its pins from the ECU side. Because what is the point to heat the coil? we are talking about a two-pin inductive sensor, a simple magnetic coil.
  • #11 18394551
    koszynek
    Level 12  
    Since I wrote that it is powered, it means it is.
  • #12 18394646
    lukashb
    Level 39  
    I will continue to maintain that you are wrong. Insert a scan from the autodata what it says.
    I will throw a fragment from the study of dr hab. Eng. Stanisław Duera
    Quote:

    Speed and shaft position sensors
    crank (Fig. 1) are most often type sensors
    reluctance, also called magnetoinductive. Device
    these types are active and therefore producing elements
    voltage without external power supply. The permanent magnet creates a field
    magnetic, whose lines cross the turns of the coil
  • #13 18395018
    koszynek
    Level 12  
    No i'm not wrong It's as I wrote. Most of the inductive sensors I encounter in my work can generate an alternating current of about +/- 1 Volt (signal amplitude ~ 2V). These 5 Volts with a current of several dozen miles Amperes (usually 20-40) I am writing about provide a constant component for digital logic circuits. This component after connecting the sensor, which is also a resistor and load for this connection, oscillates around 2.7 Volts, and thus we get signal amplitude at the level of 0.7 Volts to 3.7 Volts. Digital logic circuits from the CMOS group can interpret such signals and any voltage above 3.4 Volts will be considered high (logic 1) while any voltage below 1 Volt will be considered low (logical 0). Thanks to this operation the driver knows what to do the sensor tells him what he saw and what he counted.

    PS When I started this thread, I did not have such knowledge, so I decided to learn and improve. What I learned many years ago, unfortunately, did not cope with current systems and realities today.
  • #14 18395130
    -kris-
    Level 14  
    hi
    Correct Supply Voltage for Shaft Position Sensor in AUDI A6 C6 3.0 tdi BMK
    according to the program, both sensors are of the same type - camshaft is a camshaft
    the autodata I have has very little information about this engine
    hi
  • #15 21438811
    koszynek
    Level 12  
    Further to this topic, the answer is all the parameters read were correct, the wrong flywheel was fitted to the car.

Topic summary

The discussion concerns the correct supply voltage for the shaft position sensor in an Audi A6 C6 3.0 TDI with BMK engine code. The original question notes a measured voltage of 2.54 V and ongoing engine start difficulties despite sensor replacement. Responses clarify that the camshaft sensor is typically a Hall sensor powered by 5 V, while the crankshaft sensor is an inductive sensor that does not receive a DC supply voltage but generates an AC signal when the engine rotates. The inductive sensor functions as a simple magnetic coil producing pulses without a constant voltage supply. Measuring supply voltage directly on the inductive sensor is not meaningful; instead, sensor resistance and output signal should be checked with an oscilloscope or LED. The discussion also highlights that the sensor signal amplitude is around ±1 V AC, and the ECU interprets these signals digitally. A final resolution indicates that all sensor parameters were correct, and the root cause was the installation of an incorrect flywheel, which affected sensor readings and engine start performance.
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