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Renault Kangoo 1.5 dci 2004 - Power steering - how to improve after mechanics.

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  • #1 16678267
    Tomsi1
    Level 2  
    History in Krakow. "Power steering fell" A quick consultation with known mechanics from French cars and a diagnosis that the pump is to be repaired. However, due to the lack of available time as time, regeneration of the pump was suggested. Together with a friend, we found a power outage before removing the pump. After unscrewing the pump and connecting it to the battery, the pump motor worked as at 1/2 power. The pump rotated heavily under the fingers a and the clutch (the connector was already heavily strained). I didn't check the relays because I didn't even know which one was from the pump and my daughter had to go on the road. (This is her car) The pump was regenerated and installed in another Krakow mechanical plant, however, it was not electrically connected. (Too heavy topic for them) So I started rummaging when meeting my daughter and ... as suggested by one forum, I took out the battery and cover and discovered the unscrewed ground cable from the gearbox. I screwed. I took off the relay cover and there is one missing (from the pump) because in the meantime I read which and where. The car was again at the last mechanics, where a friend of them electrician connected the pump choosing a relay. The pump works, yes, but the expert took the power from the ignition switch and the daughter noticed that after turning the key to the first position, together with the glow plugs, the assistance pump starts to be heard. How do you not here q? and how to listen to the radio at a standstill? I have no confidence in mechanics anymore and it is advisable to repair it yourself or leave the car to the mechanic and leave a baseball bat behind the glass. Is there anyone on the forum who could help in this matter because the electrician assures his daughter that he is OK and guarantees that nothing bad will happen. For now, I do not want to make a row to spare my daughter (in advanced pregnancy) stress.
    Someone will ask why the first mechanic did not go on and did he remove the relay? Well, with the previous service of bearing replacement in the left front wheel, without a telephone consultation the shaft was replaced. Perhaps they took out the relay and did not leave it in the car.
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  • #2 16678334
    milejow

    Level 43  
    In the original, the pump relay mass flows permanently and plus is fed from the excitation cable to the alternator, only after firing and starting charging the pump gets power.
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  • #3 16680834
    Tomsi1
    Level 2  
    To the alternator or maybe from the alternator, current is fed to the relay. Directly or via the battery charging module / controller? Is pulling a current from the ignition switch to the pump relay a safe solution?
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    #4 16680920
    grala1
    VAG group specialist
    From this, nothing will happen except a faster discharge of the battery.
    There, the power relay is controlled by the engine controller giving the weight to it.
    The plus on the relay coil is from the ignition. Alternator has nothing to do with it.
    It looks like the electrician wasn't rummaging on the plus side and the minus side.
    Gray motor control plug, pin C1. The controller has a gray, brown and black plug. A 0.5mm2 gray 3KS wire goes from the engine controller to the power steering relay relay coil.
    The relay control diagram is attached.
    777- fuses in a box under the bonnet on the left wheel arch
    120 - engine control unit
    186 - power steering pump
    597 - box with fuses and relays under the hood, left wheel arch
    409 - power relay
  • #5 19977198
    CATERING7777
    Level 10  
    I also have such a problem after replacing the power steering pump. Every few days an 80A fuse is blown and if I put it on 100A it will also burn. Now the battery is discharged every day. I have to recharge every day. The old battery is weak, the new battery will also discharge it. I checked and the amps consumption is about 0.60-0.70A. And on the DIAG fuse there is a consumption of 0.50-0.60A. And the question is where is the cause of the discharge of the battery.
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