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What regulator for the Gas boiler Termet Silver, in the apartment?

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  • #1 16691067
    poeta janusz
    Level 5  
    Hello gentlemen, I am slowly finishing the installation planning, the choice of programmer remains.

    How would you recommend heating in a 5-room flat with the Termet Silver 25 KW stove?

    Does the furnace have any control and programming devices or should it be purchased separately?
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  • #2 16691239
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    You can use any weekly or daily room regulator. On / off consists in closing / opening the control contact in the boiler described as RT.
    Control, regulation can be extended by adding a weather sensor.
  • #3 16691767
    BUCKS
    Level 39  
    Termet offers an Easy Remote controller that is supposed to support Open Therm.
    I don't know how much it costs and exactly what options it supports, but I personally like to have access to as many boiler control options as possible, so the Open Therm controller seems to be the only choice for me.
  • #4 16692119
    poeta janusz
    Level 5  
    That's how the driver for this OpenTherm is offered.

    I just don't know if such details are needed for adjustment.
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  • #5 16692157
    BUCKS
    Level 39  
    I checked and Easy Remote for Silver costs PLN 300.
    For me, 300 is an acceptable price, so I wouldn't think about it. If you make every 100 PLN a big difference and you do not feel the need to have controllers with "goodies", then buy a regular controller on an on / off basis without additional communication with the boiler.
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  • #6 16692218
    poeta janusz
    Level 5  
    I think that the programmed heating hours daily plus in advance of the week is all I need

    Added after 12 [hours] 5 [minutes]:

    I want to be able to set the temperature in advance depending on the time of day. And a portable thermometer to put it in one of the rooms
  • #7 16692970
    BUCKS
    Level 39  
    Generally, the room regulator controls the temperature in the room (by design the coldest) in which it is located, so there should be no thermostatic heads on the radiators in this room, because the room regulator replaces those heads. In other rooms, on the other hand, you should have heaters selected so that the other rooms warm up at the same time. Thanks to this, the risk of underheating of one or more of the other rooms decreases if the controller gives a signal to the boiler "turn off heating".

    If you do not have large requirements, then you take a model with a weekly programmer and set the temperature for specific hours and days of the week, weekend, etc.

    At first, it seemed to me that I do not need much, but now, having more knowledge and knowing your boiler and the characteristics of your installation, I have greater requirements. The configuration options for my controller and the boiler itself are now a bit too small for me, but it is a technological solution from several years ago.
    Unnecessary options can always not be used, and if you run out of options in the future, you will not add it.
    In the pessimistic version, even if you never use the additional goodies of the controller, considering that the boiler is bought rather for several years, then saving e.g. PLN 100-150 on the controller can be negligible.

    I would also invest in condensate in the so-called weather, i.e. an outside temperature sensor, but I'm me, and everyone makes their own choices.
  • #8 16827184
    Grzewczypan
    Level 7  
    I have this regulator but in a small apartment it does not work yet. every now and then turns on, turn off the stove. it works strangely, I probably still have to embrace it. but from my observations it is better to set the minimum temperature on the furnace, and then it works tiny, almost continuous.
    silver temret boiler, flat 65m2
  • #9 16827220
    wnoto
    Level 34  
    BUCKS wrote:
    Termet offers an Easy Remote controller that is supposed to support Open Therm.

    What does he give in addition? Over standard ones with weekly program settings?
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  • #10 16827238
    BUCKS
    Level 39  
    @Grzewczypan
    I don't know how exactly this EasyRemote works.
    But most often regulators work on the principle of hysteresis.
    Having a hysteresis of e.g. 0.4 degrees, after setting e.g. 20 degrees the regulator will turn on heating at 19.8, and turn it off at 20.2.
    In practice it looks different but in general this is the principle.
    You must also take into account the speed of heating the water in the installation by the boiler, the speed of heat transfer by the radiators to the room, etc., because everything together will matter for the frequency of boiler start-ups.
    Therefore, in some situations, as you have noticed, lowering the temperature and slowing down the heating process extends the heating cycle, which increases comfort. In some boilers, the indirect power is regulated, so you have to tune everything for a specific installation. Without the weather, you have to manually adjust the boiler temperature settings depending on the frost outside.
    In fact, the area is indicative, because the most important is the demand for thermal energy, and it depends on the volume of the rooms (room height), heat loss, i.e. the possible insulation of the building, etc.

    wnoto wrote:
    What does he give in addition?

    Open Therm gives the possibility of full boiler control from the regulator, which would be useful for me, because you would not have to run to the boiler to check and change something.
    So much theory I read.
  • #11 16827254
    Grzewczypan
    Level 7  
    And isn't it the most economical solution for the boiler to work as little as possible with a flame as small as possible so that it is comfortable at home at the moment?
    and this can be set just by setting the temperature on the boiler plus additional regulation on radiators.

    and that's it. I need regulators and other goodies.
  • #12 16827283
    BUCKS
    Level 39  
    Grzewczypan wrote:
    and this can be set just by setting the temperature on the boiler plus additional regulation on radiators.

    Yes you can, but the regulator is more precise than a thermostatic head, so thanks to the regulator you can gain a few percent savings.
    Assuming that you want to maintain 20 degrees constantly, the savings come from the right energy dosage, the greater the precision, the greater the savings, because you have less losses.
    You need to find your golden mean taking into account your needs and costs.
  • #13 16910146
    piloo1
    Level 14  
    Heater - what were your Easy Remote parameters with such a boiler behavior that it switches on and off every now and then?
  • #14 16910149
    tomk38
    Level 10  
    piloo1 wrote:
    Heater - what were your Easy Remote parameters with such a boiler behavior that it switches on and off every now and then?


    it was not easy renovation only st292

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around selecting a suitable regulator for the Termet Silver 25 KW gas boiler in a 5-room apartment. Participants suggest using either a basic on/off room regulator or the more advanced Termet Easy Remote controller, which supports Open Therm technology. The Easy Remote is priced at PLN 300 and offers enhanced control options. Users emphasize the importance of setting the temperature accurately to optimize heating efficiency and comfort, with recommendations for a weekly programmer to manage heating schedules. The conversation also touches on the functionality of room regulators, the impact of hysteresis on heating cycles, and the potential for energy savings through precise temperature control.
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