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Seat Ibiza 6K2 (2 FL) ASV - Windows that do not work - do not respond to buttons

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  • #1 16711440
    sucubi
    Level 10  
    Hello,
    Car: Seat Ibiza 6k2 (2 FL)
    I have a problem with the electrics - total lack of reaction to the buttons and an attempt to close the key. (key in the ignition turned to "ignition")
    After checking the electrics, I found a wire on which the voltage was only 10V - after connecting the "external" voltage (plus pulled from the fuses / battery), the windows started to work normally.
    And here is my question what can be damaged, where to look for a fault?

    Does any of the forum users have a description (pinout) of the plugs located above the fuses (white, gray, green, blue) - which one is responsible and which cable is what for?
    I add a photo with a marked cable under which everything returns to normal after applying voltage.

    Seat Ibiza 6K2 (2 FL) ASV - Windows that do not work - do not respond to buttons
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  • #2 16711486
    spinacz
    Level 42  
    Just check the fuses very carefully, move them and see if 12V instead of 10V has returned
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  • #3 16711505
    sucubi
    Level 10  
    fuses first checked - all the whole / not blown.
    The only way to restore the window to normal operation was to do the above "workaround".
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  • #4 16711540
    spinacz
    Level 42  
    Then connect the meter without a bypass and pull out the fuses until the 10V disappears, then check this fuse socket if it reaches 12V or 10V.
    This red-yellow wire goes on a fuse at 99% 10A.

    Added after 7 [minutes]:

    Enter the year, capacity, car power.
  • #5 16711609
    sucubi
    Level 10  
    Auto to Seat ibiza 6K2 - (2 FL - lift version) 1999-2000
    1.9 TDI 110HP engine
    ASV model
  • #6 16711704
    spinacz
    Level 42  
    Did you check as I wrote you?

    Added after 6 [minutes]:

    Check the fuse second from the left level, measure the voltage on it and measure if you remove it, the 10V that is without bypass will disappear.

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    And of course you also checked the fuses over the relays?
  • #7 16711808
    sucubi
    Level 10  
    Yes, I checked the fuses - they are all and voltages are within 12 / 13v.
    after removing the fuse No. 32 voltage disappears.
    I also noticed the lack of voltage on the red and yellow wires in the "Green" plug.

    Seat Ibiza 6K2 (2 FL) ASV - Windows that do not work - do not respond to buttons
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    #8 16711821
    spinacz
    Level 42  
    It is now a H1 bulb in hand, one end to ground the other, check if the fuse 32 is inserted and shines with full power on both fuse contacts.
  • #9 16712098
    sucubi
    Level 10  
    I unscrewed the "can" with the fuses and after cleaning the plugs - unfortunately the effect of this is the disappearance of the aforementioned 10V - after connecting the passage, the windows still work (without it or shake).

    My question:
    Is there any other module / driver on the way to the window controller (for engines)?
    I suspect a damaged one of the wires behind the fuses (there are no visible damages in the box) - but to find out I would need information about the course of the beam from plug to plug (visually it is impossible to grasp because it falls into a thicker bundle which is factory secured with "tape material "and the bundle coming out of the green plug does not coincide with the wires in the bundle behind the relays / fuses)

    ps
    The voltage before and after fuse 32 is the same (12 / 13V), replacement has changed nothing.
  • #10 16712248
    spinacz
    Level 42  
    Well, all this indicates damage to the beam, but it still seems to me that the problem is somewhere near the fuses.
  • #11 16712551
    sucubi
    Level 10  
    what else do you propose to check?
    I unscrewed the fuse box and opened it and there is no visible visual damage, burns or anything indicating its damage.
    The contacts under the fuses also have no discoloration or burns, the current passes from one pin to the other - the box seems OK.
    As I mentioned before - the wiring harness is not able to check, the red-yellow cables go quite a lot and the wiring itself is glued and there is no way to visually trace where the wire goes.
    In addition, I noticed that the colors of the plugs also do not coincide with what is behind the fuses - the green plug above the fuses has different wires than those that look the same behind the relays.
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    #12 16717084
    maceek16
    Level 11  
    Check the continuity of cables from the windscreen controller to engines and I would suggest checking the masses.
  • #13 16836741
    sucubi
    Level 10  
    Hello,
    problem solved.
    It turned out that it was "burned out" (not connected to the end right next to the fuse) installation running to the fuse located just above the fuse box.
    I paste a photo with the "perpetrator" of all the confusion marked.

    Seat Ibiza 6K2 (2 FL) ASV - Windows that do not work - do not respond to buttons

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around a malfunction in the electric windows of a Seat Ibiza 6K2 (2 FL) ASV model, where the windows do not respond to button presses. The user discovered a voltage drop to 10V on a wire connected to the window system, which was resolved temporarily by applying external voltage. Various forum members suggested checking the fuses, specifically fuse No. 32, and measuring voltages at different points. The user confirmed that all fuses were intact and voltages were normal, but still experienced issues. After further investigation, it was determined that a burned-out connection near the fuse box was the root cause of the problem, which was subsequently repaired.
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TL;DR: Seat Ibiza 6K2 windows not working? "This red-yellow wire goes on a fuse at 99% 10A." The fix was a burned feed near the fuse box; inspect and repair that section first. [Elektroda, spinacz, post #16711540] Why it matters: It helps you diagnose a no-response window fault fast, without chasing the entire loom.

Quick Facts

What most commonly causes the Ibiza 6K2 windows to stop responding?

In this case, a burned or unseated wire near a fuse above the fuse box killed the window feed. Repairing that short section restored normal operation. Inspect the harness right above the main fuse panel for heat damage and loose connections. Prioritize any red-yellow feed conductors leading to the window circuit. After repair, the switches and key closing worked again without a bypass. [Elektroda, sucubi, post #16836741]

Which fuse controls power windows on the Ibiza 6K2?

Start with fuse No. 32. The poster noted that removing fuse 32 made the low-voltage reading disappear, linking it to the window feed. Confirm 12 V on both sides of that fuse with a meter or a bulb load. If voltage drops or disappears when it is pulled, trace the wiring from that position. [Elektroda, sucubi, post #16711808]

What voltage should I see at the window power feed?

Expect about 12–13 V on both sides of fuse 32 under normal conditions. The thread confirmed equal voltage before and after replacing that fuse, which ruled the fuse itself out. If you see ~10 V at the feed, chase high resistance or a partial break upstream near the fuse box. “Equal before and after” means the drop is elsewhere. [Elektroda, sucubi, post #16712098]

How do I quickly load-test the circuit without fancy tools?

Use an H1 headlight bulb as a test load. Clip one end to ground and probe each side of the suspect fuse with the other end. The bulb should glow at full brightness on both sides if the feed is healthy. A dim or no-glow result points to a high-resistance path or open circuit. This beats a meter for detecting weak connections. [Elektroda, spinacz, post #16711821]

How can I trace a 10 V drop on the red-yellow wire?

Measure without any bypass connected. Then pull fuses one by one until the 10 V disappears to isolate the branch. As the expert noted, “This red-yellow wire goes on a fuse at 99% 10A,” so target that conductor and its nearby fuse socket for heat damage or loose seating. Repair or re-pin as needed. [Elektroda, spinacz, post #16711540]

Where are the relevant connectors and wires for this issue?

Check the plug cluster above the fuses (white, gray, green, blue). The report highlighted missing voltage on red-yellow wires in the green plug during the fault. Focus inspection and continuity checks there, then follow that loom into the section just above the fuse panel where the failure was found. [Elektroda, sucubi, post #16711808]

Are fuses still suspect if they look fine?

Yes. Poor contact at the fuse blades can cause a 10 V reading and dead windows. Reseating or moving the fuses can bring back a full 12 V, highlighting a contact issue rather than a blown element. This edge case mimics a wiring fault yet is a quick fix at the panel. [Elektroda, spinacz, post #16711486]

Is there a separate module before the window motors?

Treat the path as controller-to-motors plus power and grounds. The advice was to verify continuity from the window controller to each motor and to check all grounds (masses). A break or poor ground in that path can mimic a dead switch panel. Confirm wiring integrity before replacing components. [Elektroda, maceek16, post #16717084]

What model years and engine details does this diagnosis apply to?

The thread covers a Seat Ibiza 6K2 (second facelift, lift version) from 1999–2000 with the 1.9 TDI ASV engine rated at 110 HP. While wiring may vary by trim, the fuse and red-yellow feed guidance comes from this exact configuration. [Elektroda, sucubi, post #16711609]

Three-step diagnostic to find the voltage drop fast?

  1. Remove any bypass; set your meter to DC volts.
  2. Measure at the window feed, then pull fuse 32 and observe if the low reading disappears.
  3. If it does, inspect that fuse’s socket and adjacent wiring for damage or looseness, then load-test. [Elektroda, spinacz, post #16711704]

I cleaned the fuse box; voltage changed but windows still fail. What next?

Cleaning and reseating may alter the reading, but it won’t fix a broken conductor. In the thread, the 10 V symptom vanished after cleaning, yet the windows still needed a bypass to work. That pointed to a damaged wire beyond the fuse contacts, which was later found and repaired. [Elektroda, sucubi, post #16712098]

What was the final fix confirmed by the original poster?

They located a burned and unconnected section of the installation next to a fuse above the fuse box. Repairing that joint restored full function without any external bypass. Inspect that exact area if you share the same symptoms, and rework any heat-damaged connectors. [Elektroda, sucubi, post #16836741]
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