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VW Golf 4 1,4 16V 55KW / 75HP - It fires hard after a few hours on gasoline

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  • #1 16712874
    longer175
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    Golf fires hard on gasoline for a few hours. You have to spin several times until it catches up, when it starts and comes a few seconds, there is no problem with the next firing. It has a gas installation STAG sequence installed (about a year) and when it stops and I want to start on the gas itself there is no problem fires the first time, the problem is only on gasoline.

    After connecting the car to the computer there are no errors. He replaced the throttle (used), intake manifold gaskets, spark plugs, I cleaned all connections in the intake system and nothing helped, I also checked the fuel lines from the fuel tank to the engine, if there is any leakage and everything is ok. After turning the key you can hear the pump clearly Fuel runs for a few seconds. After starting the car runs without problems on gas and gas, no jerking.
    What else can I do because I have no ideas ???
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    #2 16712905
    ZeeWolf
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    Check the injectors and fuel pressure regulator.
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    #3 16713359
    psilos1
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    The fuel pump in this car is supposed to start for a few seconds and raise the pressure on the strip after opening the driver's door - check it. If it does not work then you have a damaged microstock in the lock ... quite a common fault in G4 and derivatives
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  • #4 16714181
    longer175
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    the pump starts when the door is opened and the ignition switch is overestimated, and when today I tried to turn the ignition several times so that the pump strikes the fuel in the system, the car fires. So I'll replace this pressure regulator and see if it helps, all indications are that when the car stops, the fuel retracts and the pump fails to finish the fuel at once. In this case, I do not know how to check the injectors so I will leave them alone.
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    #5 16714196
    psilos1
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    Symptoms indicate a fuel pump - gives too low pressure
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  • #6 16714235
    longer175
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    it's just strange that once it fires up it can be extinguished and fired once without a problem, there is no trouble jerking while driving.
    I ordered a pressure regulator and we will see how it will not help the pump will also need to be replaced, I will let you know next week how the effects
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    #7 16714315
    psilos1
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    You run on LPG, i.e. in the tank, as a rule, you do not have too much gasoline, which makes the pump often unwell - I would start by changing / replacing the pump
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  • #8 16718679
    longer175
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    in my opinion, the car drives normally, i.e. it is always in the tank 1/3 tank - no reserve, but it can be a pump, this week I will replace the pressure regulator and the next one is the pump, let me know how the effects
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    #9 16718742
    paszczakq
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    Check the fuel pressure on the rail, pump or regulator still suspicious.
  • #10 16720034
    lemmak
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    Check what the cold temperature sensor shows. Unplug for gas test and put it out on gasoline, see how it fires.
  • #11 16723952
    longer175
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    I tried to extinguish on gasoline, but the same effect, I even drove on gasoline for some time, and it still does not work well. I already have a regulator, if I write it I will write what effect
  • #12 16741991
    longer175
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    after replacing the regulator there was an improvement, it is not 100% of what it should be but I have to stop there, the car belongs to my friend and said that it is already good, for me it is not quite a successful repair, but we will see how it will deteriorate and it will be replace the fuel pump then let me know if it helps, sometimes thanks for the hints they helped :-)

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around a VW Golf 4 1.4 16V experiencing difficulty starting on gasoline after a few hours of use, while it runs fine on LPG. The owner has replaced several components, including the throttle, intake manifold gaskets, and spark plugs, but the issue persists. Suggestions from the forum include checking the fuel injectors, fuel pressure regulator, and fuel pump, as low fuel pressure could be causing the starting problems. The owner plans to replace the pressure regulator and possibly the fuel pump, noting some improvement after the regulator replacement but still not achieving optimal performance.
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FAQ

TL;DR: Hard warm-start on petrol points to weak fuel pressure; “the fuel pump is supposed to start for a few seconds.” [Elektroda, psilos1, post #16713359] Why it matters: This FAQ helps VW Golf 4 1.4 16V owners diagnose gasoline hard-starts, especially on cars with STAG LPG.

Quick Facts

Why does my Golf 4 1.4 16V start hard on gasoline but fine on LPG?

LPG runs independently of petrol pressure. Your petrol side likely loses rail pressure while parked. Weak pump or a leaking regulator are typical causes. “Symptoms indicate a fuel pump – gives too low pressure.” [Elektroda, psilos1, post #16714196]

What’s the fastest first test I can do without tools?

Cycle the ignition two to three times without cranking. Listen for the pump prime. If it then starts easier, the system was depressurized at rest. This points to the regulator or pump. [Elektroda, longer175, post #16714181]

Should the fuel pump run when I open the driver’s door?

Yes. In this platform the pump primes for a few seconds after opening the driver’s door. Lack of this behavior suggests a failed door-lock microswitch. [Elektroda, psilos1, post #16713359]

Could a bad door-lock microswitch cause hard petrol starts?

Yes. If the microswitch fails, the pump may not pre-prime on door open. The engine then cranks longer to build pressure. [Elektroda, psilos1, post #16713359]

What parts should I check first: injectors, regulator, or pump?

Start with fuel pressure: regulator and pump. Check injectors for leakage if pressure holds but restarts remain poor. [Elektroda, ZeeWolf, post #16712905]

How do I measure fuel pressure on the rail?

Use a gauge on the rail test point. Record prime pressure and key-off decay. Abnormally fast drop indicates a regulator or pump check-valve issue. [Elektroda, paszczakq, post #16718742]

Does low petrol level from driving mostly on LPG hurt the pump?

Yes. Running LPG often means little petrol in the tank. The pump loses cooling, wears faster, and pressure drops. [Elektroda, psilos1, post #16714315]

Will replacing the fuel pressure regulator fix the issue?

It can. One owner reported noticeable improvement after a regulator swap, though not a perfect fix. A tired pump may still need replacement. [Elektroda, longer175, post #16741991]

Why does cycling the ignition help my Golf start?

Each cycle primes the system for a few seconds. Pressure builds before cranking, masking a weak pump or leaking regulator. [Elektroda, longer175, post #16714181]

Could the coolant temperature sensor affect petrol starting?

Yes. A faulty cold-temperature reading enriches or leans the mixture incorrectly. Unplugging for a quick test can reveal a sensor error. [Elektroda, lemmak, post #16720034]

Edge case: I always keep 1/3 tank, yet starts are still hard—why?

Fuel level alone doesn’t guarantee pressure. A worn pump can under-deliver even with 1/3 tank. Replace the regulator first, then the pump if needed. [Elektroda, longer175, post #16718679]

What’s a simple three-step pressure-loss diagnosis I can try?

  1. Open the driver’s door and listen for a short pump prime.
  2. Cycle ignition several times, then start.
  3. If starting improves, test or replace the regulator, then assess the pump. [Elektroda, psilos1, post #16713359]

Are injectors a common cause of overnight hard-starts here?

Leaking injectors are possible but less common than pump or regulator faults in this thread. Test them if rail pressure holds steady. [Elektroda, ZeeWolf, post #16712905]

What repair sequence delivered results in the thread case?

Owner confirmed improvement after replacing the pressure regulator. They planned a pump replacement next if the issue returned. [Elektroda, longer175, post #16741991]

Expert tip: what does a normal prime sound like and how long?

You should hear a brief hum for a few seconds at door open or key-on. “Start for a few seconds.” [Elektroda, psilos1, post #16713359]

My scan shows no fault codes—can fuel pressure still be low?

Yes. Mechanical pressure issues often log no DTCs. Use a gauge and observe prime and decay to confirm. [Elektroda, paszczakq, post #16718742]
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