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Renault Trafic 2.0 dci 114HP - Very strange sound - is it DPF or turbine?

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  • #1 16727507
    viper111
    Level 13  
    In Trafic 2.0 DCI with a mileage of about 420 thousand km, after starting a cold engine, after about 1-2 minutes a characteristic "additional" sound from under the chassis begins to be heard. As if something howled, it whistled and it is not the engine itself. After turning off the engine, you can still hear something spinning and slowing down until it finally goes out (sound a bit like a slowing airplane engine - it whistles less and stops). Since switching off the engine, something howls about 2 minutes and stops. With a warm engine, this is not at all.

    I will add that you can feel and see a different smoke balloon under the chassis, a smell definitely different from diesel.

    Could it be DPF burning or turbine?

    I attach a video with sound where it can be heard well both when the engine is on and when the engine is turned off. (In the movie, I turn off the engine at 27 seconds and then listen for 2 minutes as something goes on and slowly slows down and goes out eventually)
    ps computer shows error: Mixture composition sensor circuit. Well, but this does not explain this strange sound ...
    [film: b499e1dad6] https://filmy.elektroda.pl/42_1506677689.mp4 [/ film: b499e1dad6] (new video !!!)
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  • #2 16727558
    stasiekb100
    Level 30  
    Disconnect the egr plug to exclude it. For me, after quenching in 1.5 also for 10s cynic egr. It used to be like this.
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  • #3 16727806
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    Maybe webasto?
  • #4 16727809
    viper111
    Level 13  
    This car has no webasto.
    Vacuum valves? How to check?
  • #5 16727815
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    No, it's not the valves. Take it to the Pi channel to hear what it is. in my opinion, however, webasto.
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  • #7 16730645
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #8 16730704
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    Webasto like nothing.
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  • #9 16732703
    kkknc
    Level 43  
    Parking heater, engine additional heater.
  • #10 16733045
    viper111
    Level 13  
    And is such a loud work of this additional heater (webasto) a standard or is it eligible for regeneration?

    ps where is located in Trafic 2.0 dci?
  • #11 16733064
    kkknc
    Level 43  
    Standard page. After all, you can't hear this engine in the cabin.
  • #12 16733078
    viper111
    Level 13  
    Ok so that would be:
    Renault Trafic 2.0 dci 114HP - Very strange sound - is it DPF or turbine?
  • #13 16736739
    kakibara
    Level 35  
    Yes, this device (from your pictures) produces this characteristic sound - if it is installed and it works, it is a normal phenomenon as the air temperature drops below the one set by the manufacturer, e.g. from 7 ° C down.
    So it will help reheat the coolant all autumn, winter and early spring - what is it manifesting except the noise? Increased fuel consumption if the car often does not travel on the route and moves mostly on short sections. In my sharan I disconnected the ankle from the zero error additional heat.
  • #14 16745766
    genek1000
    Level 35  
    This sound is Webasto for heating coolant / heating.
    The sound is normal and just enjoy it working. :D
    I suspect it is a 9 passenger bus.
    If it wasn't for additional heating with this engine at a temperature below -10 degrees Celsius forget about the heat inside. :cry: and reheating the engine over 50 ° C

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around a peculiar sound emanating from a Renault Trafic 2.0 dCi with approximately 420,000 km mileage, particularly noticeable after starting a cold engine. Users speculate whether the sound is related to the diesel particulate filter (DPF) or the turbocharger. Suggestions include disconnecting the EGR plug to rule it out, and the possibility of a Webasto heater being responsible for the noise, which is characterized as a normal phenomenon when the coolant temperature drops. The sound persists for a couple of minutes after the engine is turned off, resembling a slowing airplane engine. The conversation also touches on the implications of the additional heater's operation, including increased fuel consumption during short trips.
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FAQ

TL;DR: On a Trafic 2.0 dCi with 420,000 km, the cold-start whine is the auxiliary heater; “The sound is normal.” [Elektroda, genek1000, post #16745766]

Why it matters: This FAQ helps Trafic owners diagnose a turbine-like whine after cold starts and avoid unnecessary DPF/turbo repairs.

Quick Facts

What’s that turbine-like whine under my Trafic after a cold start?

It’s the auxiliary coolant heater (often called Webasto-type). It fires up on cold starts and uses a small burner and fan. The sound you hear is normal operation during warm‑up. Owners report it as a distinct under‑chassis whine with a warm exhaust smell. “The sound is normal and just enjoy it working.” [Elektroda, genek1000, post #16745766]

Is this DPF regeneration or a failing turbo?

Neither. The key clue is the sound continuing for about two minutes after you shut off the engine. A turbo and DPF stop with the engine, but the heater’s fan and pump spin down audibly. Users also note a different smell under the chassis during this period. [Elektroda, viper111, post #16727507]

When does the Trafic’s auxiliary heater turn on?

It typically engages as ambient temperatures fall near 7°C and below. The goal is faster coolant warm‑up in autumn, winter, and early spring. You’ll notice the whine shortly after a cold start and a short run‑down after shutdown. This behavior repeats on short trips in cold weather. [Elektroda, kakibara, post #16736739]

Is the loudness normal, or does the heater need service?

Normal. The unit sits under the vehicle, so you hear it most outside. In the cabin, the engine and insulation mask it. As one expert put it, “The sound is normal and just enjoy it working.” Service is not indicated if heat and start timing match cold conditions. [Elektroda, genek1000, post #16745766]

Where is the auxiliary heater located on a Trafic 2.0 dCi?

Owners identify the heater as an under‑chassis module tied into the coolant lines. It’s near the underside where you can see a small exhaust outlet. Referencing shared photos, the component matches common auxiliary heater layouts for vans. Inspect safely with the vehicle secured. [Elektroda, viper111, post #16733078]

How long should the sound persist after switching off the engine?

About two minutes of spin‑down is typical. You’ll hear the tone drop as the internal fan and pump slow to a stop. This delay is characteristic of the heater’s cool‑down cycle and is independent of the engine status. The distinct smell fades with the noise. [Elektroda, viper111, post #16727507]

Will the auxiliary heater increase fuel consumption on short trips?

Yes, slightly, because it burns fuel to heat coolant. Frequent short trips in cold weather can make the heater run often. That raises consumption compared to long, steady drives. Some owners choose to disable it seasonally, accepting slower warm‑up and less cabin heat. [Elektroda, kakibara, post #16736739]

My van doesn’t have ‘Webasto’—could it still be this heater?

Yes. Many vans have an additional engine heater even without a user‑programmable parking heater. It’s often referred to as an auxiliary or additional heater rather than a full parking heater. Both terms appear in discussions about the Trafic platform. [Elektroda, kkknc, post #16732703]

How can I confirm it’s the auxiliary heater and not something else?

Do this quick check: 1. Cold start near 7°C or below and listen under the chassis. 2. Shut off the engine; the whine should continue for ~2 minutes. 3. Note the distinct warm exhaust smell from the unit’s tiny outlet. These signs indicate the heater. [Elektroda, viper111, post #16727507]

Could EGR or vacuum valves cause the noise?

Vacuum valves are unlikely here. To exclude EGR, briefly unplug the EGR connector as a diagnostic. Some engines make a short EGR‑related sound after shutdown. If your long, turbine‑like spin‑down persists, the heater is the better match. Reconnect after testing. [Elektroda, stasiekb100, post #16727558]

Why do some people say it sounds like an electric motor?

Because the heater contains an electric fan and a small fuel pump. After shutdown, you hear these components wind down. That spin‑down produces a motor‑like whine that fades over roughly two minutes, matching reported behavior in the thread. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #16730645]

Will cabin heat suffer if the heater is absent or not working?

Yes, especially in severe cold. One owner notes that with the 2.0 dCi, cabin warmth is poor below −10°C without the auxiliary heater. Expect slow engine warm‑up and reduced heater output in such conditions. Restoring the unit restores comfort. [Elektroda, genek1000, post #16745766]

Is this behavior the same as DPF regeneration?

No. DPF regen raises exhaust temperatures during driving but does not keep spinning after shutdown. The auxiliary heater’s post‑shutdown whine and distinct smell under the chassis are the differentiators. Timing and location cues separate the two. [Elektroda, viper111, post #16727507]

What’s the difference between a parking heater and an additional heater?

A parking heater can pre‑warm the engine and cabin on a timer or remote. An additional heater auto‑assists engine warm‑up after cold starts. On the Trafic, owners describe an engine additional heater rather than a user‑scheduled parking unit. [Elektroda, kkknc, post #16732703]

Can I disconnect the auxiliary heater if I don’t want the noise?

Some owners disconnect seasonally, reporting no error on other vehicles. Understand the trade‑offs: slower warm‑up and less cabin heat, and possible window fogging in cold weather. Reconnect for winter trips or sustained sub‑zero use. [Elektroda, kakibara, post #16736739]
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