Renailt Trafic - Trafic indicator lights up on the board, which means what's

Hello
At the beginning, please be understanding for naming and lack of professionalism, thank you! :-)

The case concerns: Renault Trafic petrol 2.0 cmm + LPG, 2006.
On the dashboard the orange indicator came on as in the photo below (first photo).
(some heaters ...?)

I add that:
- car stood in the parking lot about 14 days i. (two weeks)
- after starting the car it works properly , you can add gas, etc. After a while, it suddenly starts to spin and the light comes on (picture). Then you cannot add gas, it does not respond to pressing the gas pedal. We have not noticed any time regularity or principle. when it occurs most often.
- earlier (driver testimony) there were problems with LPG. They consisted in the fact that one cylinder did not work evenly.
It worked unevenly (only on gas) but it was possible to go. RPM on petrol is approx.
- after turning off the ignition (sometimes immediately, and sometimes some time), the car fires properly, the revolutions are then normal.
- when this strange indicator appears (along with the engine revs), turning the ignition switch off and turning the controls to the state (before starting) can light up: "STOP" + this strange orange indicator + battery, the rest goes out.
Please support!

best regards
"napkin"

photo of this engine: ,
photo of the correct rotation, without the mysterious indicator:

The first and most important step is connecting to the computer

Hello
Thank you very much for the scan of the manual page with the indication! (a paw for a colleague up )
Of course, bringing the car to the site on a trailer would be a solution. However, we are at the Forum ...
Before "what", on the social forum (Professionals) just like me, I offer advice, experience, selflessly produce in my industry, Elektrody.pl, , (only in a different branch) I would like to ask for answers from kind people regarding possible symptoms in such "natural circumstances" .
Maybe someone had a similar case?
Any suggestions?
Could it be related to the LPG installation?

best regards
"napkin"

Try to reset your computer somehow. Disconnect the battery, briefly put the clamps together to discharge the capacitors

kilun1 wrote:

Try to reset your computer somehow. Disconnect the battery, briefly put the clamps together to discharge the capacitors

After turning off the ignition and restarting the engine, the problem persists.
I just went outside for a moment, run it, check this car. I ran without problems. Walked approx: 15 minutes on gasoline. At that time, I drove forward on 1, then backward on the reverse. Everything normal on gasoline. The exception is gas / lpg. As mentioned by the driver, after switching to LPG, as if he did not burn on one candle.

best regards
"napkin"

Nevertheless, without a diagnosis, it will be difficult for the tester to say anything. Perhaps one of the gas injectors is malfunctioning. If it does stick on one cylinder, tighten the gas hoses with forceps when working on gas. The cylinder with no difference in engine operation will be the most suspect.

ladamaniac wrote:

... Perhaps one of the gas injectors is malfunctioning. If it does stick on one cylinder, tighten the gas hoses with forceps when working on gas. The cylinder with no difference in engine operation will be the most suspect.

Oh, that's something ... :)

best regards
"napkin"

However, diagnostics with any tester would significantly narrow the field of operation. Not necessarily a service tester, sometimes an Elm327 interface and a free program on the phone are enough.

Hello
I unscrewed the candles. One was sooty black. Surely she doesn't smoke?
I moved one of the electromagnets of this candle from the gas strip to the place of another. I started the car. He was on gas for 3 minutes. I unscrewed the candles. This time (as expected) the second candle, the one with the suspicious electromagnet added, was sooty.
Are there such faults? Does it mean that the next electromagnets (coils ...?) Will "rain" soon?
Does such an electromagnet have a professional name? Can it be purchased (one item)?

("strip" of blue color)

best regards
"napkin"

Take out that damaged Reg Fast strip and put in a new one, it costs less than PLN 150.

sebap wrote:

Tear out that broken strip Reg Fast and put in a new one, it costs less than PLN 150.

Will it be something like this: AC STAG W01 http://allegro.pl/ac-stag-w01-4-cylindrowa-2-ohm-listwa-wtryskowa-i6952555232.html
or is it something like this: VALTEK 32 OMVL REG FAST DREAM XXI
http://allegro.pl/listwa-wtryskowa-valtek-32-omvl-reg-fast-dream-xxi-i6912740586.html

Can one replace the other (alternately) without any attacks, additions ...?

best regards
"napkin"

Buddy, the first is an AC product, 3om resistance so it won't come up. The second one has 3om resistance so it would fit but it's Valtek so don't worry about it.
Look for such a blue strip https://www.google.pl/search?q=listwa+reg+fas...ed=0ahUKEwjb14Kxw-XWAhWLYB&QB14Kxw-XWAhWLYB62. You change it p & p and that's it.

sebap wrote:

Buddy, the first is a product AC , resistance 3om so he won't come. The second one has 3om resistance so it would fit but it's Valtek so don't worry about it.
Look for such a blue strip https://www.google.pl/search?q=listwa+reg+fas...ed=0ahUKEwjb14Kxw-XWAhWLYB&QB14Kxw-XWAhWLYB62. You change it p & p and that's it.

I'm sorry, Mr. Friend, I wanted to clarify because I don't know myself. Bar AC STAG W01 it's probably 2 ohms not 3, am i wrong ...?
Are there any better replacements for the AC STAG W01?

best regards
"napkin"

Yes, 2om, he writes from the phone so it's a common mistake.
Better than AC-W01 is, for example, AC-W02 but also has 2om, so tuning the installation will be necessary. After you buy a blue Reg Fast, you install it and go.
BTW, do not quote the entire content of the previous post because it is an unnecessary mess.

serwek wrote:

after starting the car, it works properly, you can add gas, etc. After some time it suddenly revs up and the light comes on (photo)

Without a tester, it's a game called "I'm shooting blind"
I shoot blind and I bet on a problem with the throttle (or the gas pedal)
The same engine sits there and the same software as in Lagoon 2.
Read the forums about Lagoon 2 and Throttle Failure Mode.

Welcome gentlemen
Initial result of repairs:
1. The reason for the phenomenon described above (entering the engine speed, without the possibility of adding gas + a strange spiral shining on the board) was a leaky injection system (on the "rail"). If only, time will tell ... you have to ride
2. The reason for not smoking on one LPG cylinder was worn (damaged) valves screwed into the gas strip. (vertical tubes with valves + springs / 2 pcs with 4)
By the way, what did I notice? The more worn the "vertical valve", the louder something "ticks" when the engine is running on LPG.
Again, sorry for the unprofessional vocabulary, I'm not from the auto-moto industry , I want to graphically describe what I saw, necessarily in my own words.

I would like to thank the honorable body for participating in the discussion, constructive ideas, and sharing
In return, I participate (as I can) in another section of the Forum / industry.
I leave the topic temporarily open, exchanging information and impressions.

best regards
"napkin"

It is not a vertical valve but an injector piston. A working injector is ticking, a worn-out crush.
What strip did you replace?

Hello
On the same (blue)!

best regards
"napkin"