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DIY Acoustic Spectrum Analyzer: Schematics & Expansion for 10+ Lines, 40-LED Video Guide

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  • #1 16734585
    piotuś
    Level 4  
    Hello.
    I would like to build something like the video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SK2AxfELfw
    Anyone have schematics for something like this?
    Is it possible to do as in the movie 10 lines and later expand to more?
    Schemes of lines and this "divider" are welcome.

    If I chose the wrong department, please move it.

    Thank you in advance for any help.

    Ps. It would be good if these lines were 40led as in the video.
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  • #2 16734611
    Hektar Zahler
    Level 34  
    Series connection of LM3915 chips. Just note that the display is not multiplexed, which is terribly wasteful. These layouts cost a bit.

    Added after 31 [seconds]:

    DIY Acoustic Spectrum Analyzer: Schematics & Expansion for 10+ Lines, 40-LED Video Guide
  • #3 16734623
    piotuś
    Level 4  
    Or do you have a cheaper and more economical alternative to this system? With this amount, a lot will come out ...
  • #4 16734632
    beatom
    Level 37  
    Kit from Chinese for $ 35.
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  • #5 16734640
    Hektar Zahler
    Level 34  
    The point is, these circuits are logarithmic and I will not give you a cheap alternative. If it were linear, the LMxxx series comparators are successfully used, e.g. in LPG level indicators in cars.
  • #6 16734742
    piotuś
    Level 4  
    I was able to find the design of these lines and if I understand it correctly they are on lm324.
    http://320volt.com/en/40-ledli-op-ampli-vu-metre/
    But there is also the issue of this "filter" (excuse me, I don't know what it's called correctly) that splits a specific frequency into a specific line.
  • #7 16734788
    kotuniunia
    Level 29  
    I don't know if you want to do it from scratch. You can buy a folding kit, it looks like this:
    https://sklep.avt.pl/avt2864.html
    And big ones are a different story and costs, the worst are the filters because you have to tune each one separately.
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  • #8 16734827
    piotuś
    Level 4  
    And how to make such a filter? And how is it dressed?
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  • #9 16734860
    andrzej55
    Level 37  
    Read about analyzers built on microcontrollers. Search the web, for example, "atmega arduino led spectrum analyzer"
  • #10 16735048
    Hektar Zahler
    Level 34  
    The appendix describes the multiplexed analyzer, which makes it possible to use only one VU-meter system. The LM3916 was used with a log-linear scale. The rationale for using bandpass filters is well explained, as is the principle of the multiplexer. As for the article that you provide at the link, the linear scale, as in the LM324 series connection, is not suitable for this and the circuit presented on jute would have to receive a compressed signal to show as it shows: is it with the help of a logarithm system, which I am somehow visually impaired here, or this with a dynamics compressor. So if I do not see such a system and in order to "patch a hole in the dynamics of the analyzer" a dynamics compressor was used in the form of eg a Winamp plug, then such a presentation is simply a fake. The necessity to use a logarithm system is dictated by the very high dynamics of music or speech expressed in dB. And here you need to know that this dB is not a unit, but it defines the measuring range of the VU-meter -> in this case voltage or power.
  • #11 19450725
    Pitupiter
    Level 1  
    From the AVT 2864 chip:
    Is it possible to replace the LEDs with 7 white and 3 blue ones, since their operating voltage is over 3v?
    if so :
    Do the values of the resistors change and what, can you leave the same, but you have to take into account that the diodes will, for example, "start later"?
  • #12 19450864
    zybex
    Helpful for users
    I made my first analyzer on 20 UL1980 chips, 10 per channel. Red LEDs 220 pieces. The 20 extra ones were always on, i.e. even without music. I just added them. It was all housed in a large tower panel. A buyer was quickly found. The second analyzer is the multiplex analyzer from Praktyczny Elektronika (on LM) shown above. I made two plays as a stereo. I sold it without the housing.

    Here is another diagram in an old book (1986).

    DIY Acoustic Spectrum Analyzer: Schematics & Expansion for 10+ Lines, 40-LED Video Guide

    DIY Acoustic Spectrum Analyzer: Schematics & Expansion for 10+ Lines, 40-LED Video Guide
  • #14 19451050
    zulusj23
    Level 25  
    A long time ago I made a 10-channel circuit from Practical Electronics. It worked brilliantly.
    Here you have a link to a page with all the issues of this great magazine from the old days:

    http://webandy.hekko24.pl/PE/lista_pdf_Praktyczny_Elektronik_1992-2002.html

    Download and see number 3 from 1992. In the next issue there was probably a reading field for 100 LEDs.
    I recommend that you review all the issues and you will find many interesting and useful things there.

    EDIT.

    The readout field is in issue 1 from 1993.
  • #15 19451932
    zybex
    Helpful for users
    You can also search for ready-made bars and add frequency filters to them. An example of bars as in the video at the auction Link . Especially this effect above (in the video) would be suitable.
  • #17 20203648
    _jta_
    Electronics specialist
    And much better, you can do software on a minicomputer ...

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around building a DIY acoustic spectrum analyzer similar to a referenced YouTube video. Users share various approaches, including using LM3915 chips for a series connection, which is noted to be inefficient due to non-multiplexed displays. Alternatives such as a $35 kit from China and designs utilizing LM324 and UL1980 chips are suggested. The importance of logarithmic circuits for accurate audio representation is emphasized, along with the necessity of bandpass filters for frequency separation. Users also discuss the possibility of using microcontrollers like Arduino for more advanced designs. Additional resources, including links to schematics and kits, are provided for further exploration.
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