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Peugeot 207 1.4 16V 90KM - Electrical diagram BSM, BSI, does not turn the starte

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  • #1 16802458
    maestrus
    Level 15  
    Hello,

    Do any of my colleagues have a wiring diagram for Peugeot 207. Mine is 2006, 1.4B 16V, 90KM 5HB.
    The problem is that the starter does not turn (it works briefly).
    Free. checked (30A safe F11 burned earlier (probe heater shorted to ground due to damaged plug).

    After turning the key nothing happens, the car quickly enters the economy mode. After postponing battery and connection again when trying to start only the BSI relays in the cab can be heard but nothing else happens. The fuel pump feeds, does not start briefly when turned on.

    PP does not show errors except the mixture (it is known that it gives fuel, floods it etc.) the problem is not immo.

    I am interested in how further signals to the starter are expected after the start command from the ignition.
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  • #2 16802550
    tomasz0703
    Level 26  
    After switching on the ignition BSI gets along with the ECM and if there is permission to start, BSI after VANIE gives a signal to BSM and it activates the internal relay of the starter (After turning the ignition switch to position 50 the starter) The signal from BSM to the starter is a gray 5-pin plug 2 pin.
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  • #3 16803966
    maestrus
    Level 15  
    tomasz0703 wrote:
    BSI after VANA gives a signal to BSM

    And do you know which signal and which plug from BSI to BSM?

    In conclusion from your hint, I could say that if BSI gets along with ECM, even if I did not have a signal from VAN from BSI to BSM, it should be fired for a short while (but it doesn't smoke).
    Since such a problem theoretically I have to look between BSI and ECM - but BSI does not return errors, on or off. immo doesn't matter either.
  • #4 16803971
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    Starter fuse ok? Insert a good battery as it goes into eco mode
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  • #5 16804698
    maestrus
    Level 15  
    andrzej20001 wrote:
    Starter fuse ok? Insert a good battery as it goes into eco mode


    Starter fuse OK, the battery is just new.
    For a short time.

    No colleague has a general scheme how do the signals between BSI, BSM and ECU follow the ignition?

    As a colleague Tomasz suggested, I bet that ECM does not give "permission" to run for some reason and here I will look for a problem - otherwise if he gave it by turning for a short time (as if the BSM or starter fuse was damaged) then I would start the car skipping these elements. ..

    Unfortunately it doesn't start. Activation immo OK, no BSI errors.

    When it comes to ECM, it collapses injections, probes, etc. - normally in this case because I shoot for a short time and nothing starts. Errors are only temporary when shot for a short time. Nothing else.
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  • #6 16804720
    Doktorr
    Level 35  
    Often the internal relay of the starter in the BSM falls, but then it fires with pride.
  • #7 16804724
    maestrus
    Level 15  
    Doktorr wrote:
    the internal relay of the starter in the BSM falls, but then it fires with pride


    Yes - gray relays in BSM - right. but in this case I would start shooting briefly - bypassing the signal from the relay.
  • #9 16804843
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    Take a bsm test and see if the starter moves.
  • #10 16869764
    maestrus
    Level 15  
    The problem was finally solved, BSI gave all the necessary signals in the same way as BSM. By way of elimination, the indication fell on the ECM, which I finally replaced after ripping the contents of the memory and losing to the second, used driver. After replacement, the car drives.

    Thank you for the diagram and valuable hints.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a 2006 Peugeot 207 1.4 16V experiencing issues with the starter not turning over. The user seeks a wiring diagram for the BSI (Built-in Systems Interface) and BSM (Battery Supply Module) to diagnose the problem. Initial checks revealed a burned fuse and a new battery, but the starter still fails to engage. Responses indicate that the BSI communicates with the ECM (Engine Control Module) to authorize starter activation, and potential issues could lie in the signal transmission between these components. The user suspects the ECM may not be providing the necessary signals, leading to the eventual replacement of the ECM, which resolved the issue. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the electrical connections and signals involved in the starting process.
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