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Choosing the Right Power for LED Floodlights: Comparing with Halogen, Energy Consumption & Factors

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  • #1 16883802
    budujesz.pl
    Level 2  
    Halogen lighting systems are very often used for commercial and advertising purposes. However, LED floodlights are an attractive alternative to this solution - what do they characterize and how to match their power to specific needs?

    I am talking about quite significantly built-in devices, equipped with LEDs that generate a lot of light. This makes them ideal for lighting large industrial rooms as well as workshops or even advertising space.

    LED floodlight on a white background with LEDs in the center.

    Most importantly, however, LED floodlights are characterized by very low energy consumption, much lower than in the case of traditional incandescent bulbs and even the aforementioned halogens. Another important feature is their lifetime, which for the best models is counted even tens of thousands of hours! However, this is not all, because the floodlights are also very durable, resistant to all kinds of harmful factors, and there are several varieties on the market.

    What to look for when choosing?

    Of course, the usefulness of these devices largely depends on the demand. Based on the specifics of the space to be illuminated, we select a specific floodlight model. A thorough analysis of its most important parameters will help us, of course.

    -Power. Undoubtedly the most important element of the floodlight specification. It should be emphasized that the power indicates the amount of current consumed by the device, which in turn translates into the brightness of the generated light, represented by the amount of lumens. This should be remembered because some sellers, using the ignorance of consumers, artificially overstate the power of the floodlights they propose.

    So to determine the power of the equipment, you need to check how strong the light emits. The record of this parameter looks like this: 60 lm / W. What does it mean? That with one Watt of power, the floodlight is able to generate 60 lumens. So if we buy 35W equipment, the light will be emitted with a brightness of 2,100 lumens (35 * 60). To compare such a lamp with a halogen one should divide the result of 2100 lm by 10 - it will be the equivalent of a 210W halogen device.

    It seems to be complicated, so in the rest of the text we will suggest how to choose power LED floodlights for specific tasks.

    -Lightness class. Contrary to appearances, this is an important parameter, because it determines whether the LED floodlight purchased by us can be used outdoors. The tightness classes are determined based on the IP (International Protection Rating) standard, indicating the degree of protection of devices.

    If you are looking for equipment that will be able to work in changing weather conditions, aim for models with an IP65 degree - it means protection against water jets poured from any direction and against the effects of dust.

    - Light color. In this case, we have 3 choices. Floodlights emitting warm white, cold white and neutral are available on the market. The first type generates a slightly reduced amount of light, so it is used for decorative purposes, for example, to highlight the facade of buildings.

    The cold color is associated with a very large amount of light, therefore it will be useful to illuminate dark places - driveways, billboards or industrial halls. On the other hand, when it comes to neutral color, it is the closest to neutral, therefore it will work in almost any conditions.

    -A motion sensor. On the market you can find devices that constantly emit light of a certain power, as well as models with a built-in motion sensor. The first of them will prove useful wherever we need a constant light source - for example, in industrial buildings, advertising materials or in the workshop.

    LED floodlight with a motion sensor on a white background.

    Floodlights with motion sensors will only be activated if a moving object crosses an infrared beam. This solution works very well around the house - it informs us that someone has approached our property. When buying a LED floodlight with a motion sensor, we should check whether it has adjustment mechanisms that allow you to adjust, among others, the sensitivity of the sensor and the exposure time.

    Dimensions. This parameter is important for assembly reasons. Not everywhere we will be able to install large, fully enclosed devices.

    What LED floodlight power should you choose?

    As announced, we will now try to choose the power of the floodlights and the amount of light they generate for specific applications. This will allow you to better understand what equipment you should buy to enjoy the full comfort of use.

    - Outdoor floodlight - in this case, a lot depends on how many places you want to illuminate. If you care about one floodlight situated, for example, above the entrance door, you should opt for models with a power of at least 30W, whose total amount of lumens will be in the range from 1500 to 2000 (at least 50 lm / W). They should emit a neutral or cold light color.

    However, if we want to mount several lamps, because we have a large yard, we can put on floodlights with a power 20W, generating at least 1000 lumens. Purchasing models with a motion sensor may also be a good solution. In this way, we will significantly extend the life of the lamps.

    - Garage floodlight - often it is a place where we do DIY or car repairs. In this situation, we need two strong lamps, mounted on two sides. Their power should reach at least 30W, and the intensity of emitted light a minimum of 1500 lumens.

    These values can be divided by half if the garage is only used to store the car in it.

    - floodlight in front of the garage - However, before the car is in the garage, we must find it somehow. The floodlights will be helpful in the evening. 20W (1000-1200 lumens) devices will be enough.

    - Parking floodlight - guarded parking lots are usually large spaces for which we need really strong lamps. All this means that you should opt for 50W models - they usually generate luminous flux of more than 3000 lumens. Of course, it must be a cold light color.

    - floodlight for advertising - the advertising space must be illuminated from all sides so that the marketing message is noticeable. Therefore, it is worth installing 4 or 6 floodlights with a power of at least 20 W (1000 - 1200 lumens).

    - floodlight for workstation - another place that must be accurately illuminated. Lamps are best mounted directly above it - one floodlight with 30W (1000-1500 lumens) for one stand should be enough.

    - Workshop floodlight - as practice shows, for one square meter of such space you need about 3-4W of floodlight power. All this means that for an area of 40 m2, it is worth buying four floodlights with a capacity of at least 30W. Of course, if there are more positions, we can buy more lamps. The light they generate should be cold or neutral, and its intensity must oscillate around the limit of 1500 lumens.

    - Facade floodlight - as we have already mentioned, in this case aesthetics is important. An attractive effect can be obtained by installing slim lamps at equal intervals, with a power of 10 W (500-700 lumens) and a warm light color.

     Choosing the Right Power for LED Floodlights: Comparing with Halogen, Energy Consumption & Factors

    As you can see, the choice of a floodlight is associated with the need to analyze many issues, which, however, become clear when we know exactly what tasks we need a lamp for. We pay attention primarily to the power of the device, the amount of lumens and the color of the generated light. These three parameters have the greatest impact on the efficiency and usefulness of floodlights.

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  • #2 16884118
    Djwazi
    Level 13  
    Unfortunately, as for thousands of hours, I must admit that I have not happened so long that LED y y durable. Power LEDs, in particular white, are highly overrated, and an electronic power supply. I know from practice that these devices are emergency and even those for 850 EUR fall sometimes after half a year. With this energy saving it is also a fake, because in practice after balancing all losses, traditional fluorescent lamps go better. I have fluorescent lamps installed in the workshop for 12 years and I haven't changed yet, and Led illuminators in the production hall, due to the failure frequency, I replaced with halo-packs (metal-halogen). In turn, with the quality of light, nothing beats an ordinary light bulb or incandescent lamp - full spectrum filling, no flickering, no harmful elements, no interference and reactive power, and this multifunctionality thanks to which you can warm up. Because what I care about how I heat a house - how I can afford it is my business.
    Regards
  • #3 16884254
    wada

    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    budujesz.pl wrote:
    - Worklight floodlight - another place that must be accurately illuminated. Lamps are best mounted directly above it - one floodlight with 30W (1000-1500 lumens) for one stand should be enough.

    -Watch floodlight - as practice shows, for one square meter of such space you need about 3-4W floodlight power. All this means that for an area of 40 m2, it is worth buying four floodlights with a capacity of at least 30W. Of course, if there are more positions, we can buy more lamps. The light they generate should be cold or neutral, and its intensity must oscillate around the limit of 1500 lumens.
    Workstation - it depends what - in the company the 2x4m table was 700W metal halide but as we fell again we gave two 30W LEDs as dark as in four letters ..., now two 150W LEDs are lighting nasty and glaring and then you get the impression that it is too dark with some works, for now the 30W is also included, and we will probably come back to metal halides. LED light is as if polarized and makes strange shadows tiring to the eyesight, and distorts the colors too much.
    For illuminating exhibitions or courtyards for apparent power saving - it is suitable for nothing more.

     Choosing the Right Power for LED Floodlights: Comparing with Halogen, Energy Consumption & Factors

    And these fall like flies even after a month
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  • #4 16884370
    Djwazi
    Level 13  
    wada wrote:
    LED light is as if polarized and makes strange shadows tiring to the eyesight, and distorts the colors too much.

    It is the fault of the limited spectrum - only light bulb, flame and sun give full spectrum of light. The LED diode lacks some colors and some are 10 times brighter and that is why the eyes hurt.
    Regards
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  • #5 16884402
    jaszczur1111
    Level 33  
    I confirm the poor lifetime of factory designs. It results from 2 things: led effort for max. with too small a heat sink and a switching power supply, often also at the limit. It is enough that it will be hot and damn it goes mainly LEDs. There is often a significant decrease in brightness over time. I would determine the average service life of these lamps at the level of 1 year of continuous operation if extreme thermal conditions do not occur.

    The problems described by the defect can be eliminated to a large extent by using many different diodes in terms of color temperature. They should be placed behind the frosted glass and it is best that they do not shine directly on the illuminated area, but that the light is reflected from e.g. a white wall. For this, literally use half the diode current allowed. Of course, large, with heat sinks.

    Underestimated or ordinary slightly halogenated light bulb is my favorite atmosphere. I use LED lamps of my own design for savings.
  • #6 16887321
    strucel
    Level 35  
    jaszczur1111 wrote:
    I confirm the poor lifetime of factory designs. It results from 2 things: led effort for max. with too small a heat sink and a switching power supply, often also at the limit.


    I have a led panel powered by a DC power supply, it seems 28-40V 0.5A The power supply has flooded and stopped working. I disassembled it inside, built in fairly neat OB3330CP + mosfet but the water inside can not cope, it damaged, among others, the controller.

    You have to buy a new one, unfortunately 0.5A is very expensive, I found that I would buy stronger and just reduce its current. I bought the auction "SALE! Driver LED 1500mA 50W Cob power supply" dismantled and surprise inside - it is driven by a clone of the Silan SD6807D system (dip7 housing) with a mosfet integrated in the structure) defined by the manufacturer as max 18W and here 50W is pulled out of it so how is it supposed to work for a long time?
  • #7 16887729
    arek5kyu
    Level 2  
    I know from experience that depending on the place, not necessarily the power is so important and the color of the light. In the workplace and where the human resides, the cold color is completely unsuitable. At 30W, the cold color will be light but the feeling is as if it were dark, and the sight is getting tired. It is better to use a neutral color 20W and 10W warm then the comfort for the eyes will be greater.
    Regarding the failure rate of floodlights, it depends on the performance, but it is large. Usually the LED cooling is poor and the driver overheats. This results in damage to the power supply (mainly capacitors, which is still profitable for repair).
    Floodlights with DOB (Driver On Board) power supply are more durable. However, the blinking effect is more visible in them, especially when we look at the camera, e.g. from a phone. These converters often operate at the grid frequency. As a result, working in such lighting is also fatiguing the eyes.
    There are LED chips with a really good color rendering index and a real efficiency of 120% (1W = 120lm) but in floodlights they are very rare. The Chinese have to get rid of millions of older technology for now, maybe something more specific will appear in two to three years. For now, the use of floodlights is narrow for the above reasons ..
  • #8 16887918
    elektryku5
    Level 39  
    I had a 50W floodlight on the table with no name, with the module voltage and power supply current its real power is about 20W, more than 2x more expensive Osram 50W measured on the network side already had something that approaches 50W and a tolerable color, in addition the heat sink was only the name housing, and there was a heat sink here, I can not say anything about durability, because they were recently installed, but the LED module is rather not typical and it's good that it doesn't burn too quickly.

    As for workshop lighting, I rather still insist on linear fluorescent lamps (with a decent electronic ballast), recently bought 120cm LED lamps with a dozen or so zlotys despite the 4000k color go as green / yellow and additionally siphon "a little" interference, it is a plus, because they shine immediately with full power, but somehow I am not completely satisfied.
  • #9 16888312
    Piottr242
    Level 23  
    This type of floodlight falls like flies: out of 8 installed at my local store 2 years ago they operate 3. And it is not known if these 3 were not replaced because they shine from the entrance, those on the sides first blinked, then they died for good. It is known that the floodlight is uneven, but something is wrong.
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  • #10 16888507
    kot mirmur
    Level 33  
    Hello colleagues, the conclusions are simple - halogen, lots of UV - also unhealthy.
    Recently in the puppet show [it comes to TV], they showed some advertisements of super Led bulbs [probably Philips], which are supposedly healthy for our eyes. Interesting. Unfortunately, I do not have a meter to measure light color temperature, but if one of your colleagues knows a professional photographer or filmmaker, we could have some specific measurements. They use equipment to measure light color.
  • #11 17662204
    Memciu
    Level 11  
    Hello.
    I didn't find a solution to my problem.
    I am looking for a floodlight with a motion sensor that can be activated permanently by clicking the 2x switch. Here once someone wrote about it but I can not find.
    I am looking for such outside, min 30W with a motion sensor (movable, adjustable) and with the function that I described.
    Maybe someone knows about this?

Topic summary

The discussion centers on the comparison between LED floodlights and traditional halogen lighting systems, particularly in commercial and industrial applications. Users express skepticism about the longevity and energy efficiency of LED floodlights, citing experiences of early failures and inadequate light quality. Concerns are raised regarding the limited color spectrum of LEDs, which can lead to eye strain and poor color rendering. Some participants advocate for the use of metal halide lamps or fluorescent lighting over LEDs due to perceived advantages in durability and light quality. The importance of proper thermal management and the quality of components, such as power supplies, is emphasized as critical for the performance and lifespan of LED fixtures. Additionally, there are inquiries about specific LED floodlight models with motion sensors.
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