[Solved] Ryzen 7 1700, MSI B350 TOMAHAWK, G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3200C16D-16GVKB: RAM Clock Issue at 3200MHz

Hello. I have the kit as below, but I have a problem with the ram memory. The board automatically sets the clock to 2133MHz, using the xmp-1 profile manages to start the computer with the memory clock speed of 3066MHz, but after a few days or a reset, the computer has a problem and cannot start - the clock returns to 2133MHz. I tried to manually set the ram voltage from 1.35 to 1.38 and the 3066MHz clock, but the computer immediately throws a ram error and returns to 2133. (Bios latest).


Processor: Ryzen 7 1700
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK
Ram: G.Skill [Ripjaws V] F4-3200C16D-16GVKB (2x8GB 3200MHz)
Power supply: Corsair VS-450

I am asking for help in setting these memories to work best at 3200 or at least 3066 each time

Set the main timings to even numbers.

Increase the ProcODT value to 60 Ohms

Turn off Power Down Mode.

Try higher voltages, e.g. SOC 1.1v DRAM 1.4v

If higher voltages don't work, try lower ones like 0.95v SOC 1.35v DRAM

Do not switch immediately from 2133MHz to 3066Mhz, instead increase the clock gradually, e.g. first 2667Mhz, then 2933MHz and then 3066MHz

Saying that the computer throws a RAM error do you mean the blue screens or that you have three signals from the speaker on the board, then the computer resets, and then repeats it until after one beep, the settings reset?

These are the second 3 signals from the loudspeaker, 4 resets and a LED on the board

cysiu388 wrote:

These are the second 3 signals from the loudspeaker, 4 resets and a LED on the board

Ok, and did you do what I wrote?

Please read this forum carefully
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At the moment I do not know if these (: G.Skill [Ripjaws V] F4-3200C16D-16GVKB (2x8Gb 3200mhz) read Link ) are supported as 3200 on this disc.

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lisek wrote:

Please read this forum carefully
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Link

At the moment I don't know if these (: G.Skill [Ripjaws V] F4-3200C16D-16GVKB (2x8Gb 3200mhz)) are supported as 3200 on this board.

What is so useful about my previous topic that you linked to it?

It's from the MSI forum Link

Perhaps this will help in selecting RAM Link_ gskill_configurator

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Compatible with this board Link
Read from the MSI forum Link

Piterixos wrote:

cysiu388 wrote:

These are the second 3 signals from the loudspeaker, 4 resets and a LED on the board

Ok, and did you do what I wrote?

Unfortunately, I did not find only the "ProcODT" option, but thanks to the Power Down Mode option and the 1.38 voltage, I was able to set the framework to 3066mhz so that the computer wakes up every time Unfortunately, 3200 failed, i.e. 3200 sets and flashes, but when I turn off the computer, it will not get up later ...

lisek wrote:

Perhaps this will help in selecting RAM Link_ gskill_configurator

They chose the Ram in the store for the whole set, so I didn't even check it myself before.

In the third screen, you have this option, it can help.

By the way, could you upload screenshots of your settings? I mean the settings that are visible in the screenshots I posted. I am also trying to set the clocks to at least 3066Mhz.

Please

It is stable at the moment

Leave it like that, don't worry about anything.
Apparently, these RAM "work" on 3200 only by. producer's!?

If you want 3200, buy the real> ones from the list.
Gain on efficiency and about 5-10% for ... a much bigger hit on the pocket.

lisek wrote:

Leave it like that, don't worry about anything.
Apparently, these RAM "work" on 3200 only by. producer's!?

If you want 3200, buy the real> ones from the list.
Gain on efficiency and about 5-10% for ... a much bigger hit on the pocket.

Yep, they also told me not to mess with it, if I did, it would probably sit at 2666MHz instead of 2933Mhz, and the Timings instead of being quite pampered as they would be the default now.

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I would probably sit at 2666MHz instead of 2933Mhz, and Timings instead of being quite pampered as they would be the default now.

Just control the temperatures and voltages, because today two such boards were brought (MSI B350 TOMAHAWK) for OC RAM and CPU, burned in part DC-DC RAM power supply
- 1-phase power supply for the Richtek controller marked as 8Y = 3L (??) and two field Nikos PK616BA / PK632BA
* possibly a solution from older boards on AMD X370




ps

That's for 2400 MHz RAM


Here for 3200

* it's circled

I will not hide that I do not understand what these screens are for.

After all, I didn't buy 3000MHz CL15 RAM to make 2400MHz CL17 out of it. And the bios screen shows nothing interesting.

You did not write the most important thing - was this defect due to overclocking? And if so, how strong? DDR4 can finally run safely even at 1.5v, so I can not really imagine a situation that even the strongest OC at 1.35v would be able to overheat anything.

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that even the most powerful OC at 1.35v would be able to overheat anything.

That's not the problem.
Because of the OC, he "pushed" DC-DC (on this chip. Richtek (8Y =), about which nothing is known) for RAM4 and probably too high voltage went.?
* RT8248A WQFN-20L for DDR3 / DDR3L / LPDDR3 / DDR4 / LPDDR4 was used in the past

This board is probably not one of the strongest for OC, the Ryzen power supply is only 4 + 2 phases and 1-phase for RAM4.
- for cpu cores (CPU Core Voltage)
- CPU SoC Voltage - 1.05V (not more than 1.15V),
* power supply for "supporting parts of Ryzen cpu systems": L3 cache, RAM controller, ... SATA, PCI-E
DRAM Voltage - 1.4V (not more than 1.45V).

Manufacturers' boards on the older X370 chipset had 4 + / 6 + 2/6 + 2 (on ASP1405I) and sometimes 10 + 2 Ryzen phase power and 2-two phases under RAM4 on good solutions:
- IR35201 CPU power supply Link + circuits responsible for doubling the number of phases IR3598 Link
* RAM power supply on uP



For the Ryzen OC above 3000/3200 IS PURE THEORETICAL, he has problems as to why and what only AMD knows.
As he admits, the problem is in Bios and a part written by AMD: eg AGESA 1.0.0.6.
It sets Timing for RAM with 133MHz interval! and it is a microcode for the controller.
Ver. The AGESAs set by AMD engineers undergo numerous modifications, but there are still problems


e.g. we have 1866-2133-2400 .. then 2667 -> no e.g. 2533 MHz ...
It's option 4133, 4200 and 4266, but the price of memory kills e.g. set. DDR4-4266 is $ 300

The standard ones are 2133, 2400 and 2666, which is allowed by the entries in the SPD of most modules, the question is also in which slots we insert to get the highest possible frequency. OC.



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Interestingly, AMD admits that the Tctl sensor in the Ryzen 5 / Ryzen7 was turned up for aggressive fan operation and faster XFR operation, to protect the processor!

Ok, that's right, this album is not of the highest quality, but it does the job for everyday work and a small OC It helped me to turn off one option in bios and set the voltage to 1.38 (3066mhz), it seems to me that it is a relatively safe value At 3200mhz it will boot and throw no errors until every other computer start - but such work does not make sense. We will wait, maybe the new bios will help something (if it is)
For now, thank you for your help

These voltage values are where did you get, did you calculate, or any official sources? I'm asking partly because on reddit one guy in every topic about DDR4 recommends changing the voltage to 1.5v but I have to suspect that it's a bit of a troll ...

Generally, 1.35V is the recommendation of the manufacturer of my frame bones, so 1.5V I think is too much (I heard that 1.4 is the maximum voltage that is safe), as my colleague fox wrote (and others on various forums), the power section is not the best, and it seems to me that it may not withstand at some point ... 3066 mhz (without xmp) - here it was possible that the 4 time he fired this voltage on the car was 1.38V. So this was my main concern At 1.39V at 3066 something did not suit him, and at 1.38 V 3066 he always fires without problems and runs relatively fast

You have here copied from the website of your memory manufacturer:
XMP 2.0 Support.

However, I have a problem I just don't know now if related to the framework. Mem test showed no errors, but when using firefox (most often, edge too, but less often), the computer resets and cannot start (the fans return to normal speed for max 3 seconds and such a loop will not start until you reset it with the button) . The error in the log is Kernel-Power (63) ID 41. I charged the Prock with Cinbench R15 Benchmark, nothing happened, temperature okay.

I have the same problem. They only go in 2133. I have exactly the same record and memory. A week ago I bought together with ryzen 5. I was a bit disappointed so I wrote to the seller, specifically morele.net, that something is wrong and I am waiting for a response from them, maybe they have a solution to the problem. I tried to set it according to what you wrote, but it crashes on all settings. Only the initial ones work.

My memories were not actually on the compatibility list of the motherboard manufacturer, but they should be 2600, 2800, 2933 without a problem. The newest bios? Have you tried A-Xmp 1? What if Ryzeny is quite cool Procki, it's nice to work with him

I haven't checked the bios for updates yet. Maybe today it will be possible if I have time. From what I read on the internet, there is often a problem with g.skill memories and 3200 clock speed in combination with ryzen. I am still waiting for the store to write back.

I have bios version E7A34AMS.180 from 09/13/2017 from what I saw you had a newer one.

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Did you manage to set the level stable at what level? 3066?

Well, update it, because it matters a lot ... Yes, on 3066 it is stable, on 3200 it works once, not once.

Ok, I did an update it looks like it's okay. It even works on 3200, the last bios from March 16, 2018. The store wanted me to send them the bones, they did not write anything to me and this, as you can see, was not a problem in the bones.

MSI released a bios update and the problem solved itself
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