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Renault Scenic 1.6 16V - Immo indicator lamp flashes quickly, does not start.

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  • #1 16963898
    Mikroprocesor
    Level 12  
    I warmly welcome. Recently, in my Scenic I have a rather typical problem for them. The car fired hard in the cold, after a short stop under the store, the immo indicator flashes quickly and the car does not start. I checked with a Delphi computer and showed an immo loop supply error and in the parameters I noticed such data: (keys: 2, type 1 unit: no, type 2 unit: yes). If he thinks well after changing the mode, everything should return to normal? Can this be done from the Ddt2000 level or do you need a clip for this? Is it worth playing or is it better to remove the immobilizer right away?

    The car is: Renault Scenic 1.6 16v Kaleido 1999 (transition model, radio key, clocks and electronics made of polypropylene).
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  • #2 16964047
    sadek1979
    Cars specialist
    Do immo off and after trouble. These are no longer "salable" cars.
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  • #3 16964062
    Pawel wawa
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Mikroprocesor wrote:
    Can this be done from the Ddt2000 level or do you need a clip for this?

    I don't know Ddt2000, you'll make a Clip. It spills when the power supply is low. A fallen battery, broken beam, etc.
  • #4 16964109
    Mikroprocesor
    Level 12  
    Pawel wawa wrote:
    I don't know Ddt2000, you'll make a Clip. It spills when the power supply is low. A fallen battery, broken beam, etc.


    Is it worth rearranging? Is the risk of the malfunction recurring?
  • #5 16964138
    Pawel wawa
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    It is worth trying and keeping an eye on the condition of the battery, also clean and secure the fuse holders. The fault only occurs as a result of a voltage drop.
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  • #6 16964193
    Mikroprocesor
    Level 12  
    Pawel wawa wrote:
    It is worth trying and keeping an eye on the condition of the battery, also clean and secure the fuse holders. The fault only occurs as a result of a voltage drop.


    The only electrician in my city who wants to take up the subject is only for immo excision. I changed the battery this year, but the voltage at standstill is 12.01, and after switching on the dipped headlights on the engine off it drops to 11.7 also probably is not in the best condition: / Thanks for the advice, I will consider buying a clip the more that in the future I want to buy lagune II :)
  • #7 16964353
    kris-644
    Level 21  
    Do immo off and after trouble.
    Kris
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  • #8 16964801
    sadek1979
    Cars specialist
    Dear friend, from the beginning you had to write that loading is lying. If your electrician says it's ok, then you and his alternator need to be changed. (the alternator can fix it). You will not disable imma with the clip. There is a switch off option but you will only turn off the red indicator (diode) on the meter.
  • #9 16965341
    Mikroprocesor
    Level 12  
    Dear friend, charging is ok. Maybe I put the information in the previous post too weak, but I only paid attention to the resting voltage of the battery with the engine off (12.01V). :)

    I found in DDT2000 (I only have access to it now) and in the "VERLOG parameter saving" tab I found "type de transpondeur, wedge 0 block 1" - "type of transporder, 'wedge' 0 'block' 1". From this I am aware of two types of transpenders for them, one is TP19, which looks a bit like a wedge, and the other is TP21, which looks like a block. Is it possible that this value that changes in the UCH? Is it better to wait for access to CLIPA? Because at the moment I don't really want to pay quite a lot of money for a tow truck to a specialist: /
  • #10 16965430
    andrzej20001
    Level 43  
    Take the car to electronics and the case.
  • #11 16968174
    sadek1979
    Cars specialist
    As soon as I wrote immo off and by topic. In addition, you can connect the central controller and peace of mind (and mine). Personally, I do it myself.
  • #12 16969924
    Mikroprocesor
    Level 12  
    tomasz sadowski wrote:
    ... In addition, you can connect the central controller and peace of mind (and mine). Personally, I do it myself.


    What do you mean buddy? The central version with the radio remote control probably remains unchanged :)
  • #13 16970240
    kris-644
    Level 21  
    The motor driver probably has a so-called gumiak. The klepaczka is the biggest medicine for this. For this additional switchboard, as Mr. Tomasz Sadowski said, and to eliminate the biggest error of this car ...
    Regards.
  • #14 16970741
    Jurek220
    Level 31  
    kris-644 wrote:
    The motor driver probably has a so-called gumiak. The klepaczka is the biggest medicine for this.


    In the 1.6 16v engine it's rather not "gumiak", at least I have never met.

    The best solution is to re-program the keys, only the pin you need, unless you do not have one, it will take a little more time to read it.
    And then the central works correctly and the most important thing is that it is in the originale.
    However, we must remember that it has already been mentioned that the battery must be operational because
    otherwise the fault will recur.
    Pozdr.
  • #15 16970778
    Pawel wawa
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Sure, there is no Syrius 32 sitting there. It's probably enough to change from immo 1 to immo 2 in the boot lock tab, no codes needed. Of course, Clip. The second version, removing the immo from the driver, cutting off the line and turning off the control. You can also give EMU, then you don't have to pull the car to the service.
  • #16 16974040
    Mikroprocesor
    Level 12  
    My electrician wants to remove immo + use an emulator. Is this a good solution and the most important thing - does the central locking work normally then? At the beginning I was more in favor of switching the immo mode, but I am afraid to repeat the entertainment, and sometimes I drive a car very far ;)

    I was thinking about one more option, namely this immo mode probably means nothing other than the two types of transponders in the keys. Would the problem not be solved by buying a raw "type 2" key and programming it in your computer? Does this mode of operation (immo 1, immo 2) mean anything else?
  • #17 16974440
    adam7009

    Level 41  
    Whether on emu or without having to program flash, without emu lower costs, only that most can not do it correctly and uploads the cash and then the circuses and x2 costs start.
    The immo type is the type in which the motor controller works, in this case type 2, UCH can handle 1 and 2.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a Renault Scenic 1.6 16V experiencing issues with the immobilizer (immo) indicator lamp flashing quickly, preventing the car from starting. The user reports an immo loop supply error detected via a Delphi computer, indicating potential problems with the battery or electrical supply. Various responses suggest checking the battery condition, ensuring proper voltage, and considering the use of a Clip diagnostic tool for reprogramming the immobilizer settings. Some participants recommend disabling the immobilizer entirely or using an emulator, while others emphasize the importance of maintaining a functional battery to prevent recurring issues. The conversation also touches on the types of transponders used in the keys and the implications of switching between immo modes.
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